vk45de in a 240sx? - Page 2

NISSANSPDR · #16 02-06-2003, 06:35 PM

I agree that dumping that V8 wont help the cars handling but I'd like just for messing around town...think...more double the torque you have!

LOL

Pics of the VH45DETT

http://www.pbase.com/image/8421634

NIF · #17 02-06-2003, 09:31 PM

The original Infinity Indy V-8 is based off of the VK, go for it. I've thought that I might like to put one in a hardbody pick-up (need an interesting daily driver once the rb26 get in) plus IIRC the weight difference isn't nearly as big as what people will tell you.

Might be something worth further investigation. Hmmm (said scatching chin).

Dan Rushing
Sub-Zero Performance

Fliquer · #18 02-06-2003, 10:09 PM

Quote:

if a 5.0 Liter Mustang GT engine can fit in a S13

The 5.0 can fit into a small engine bay b/c its a pushrod engine. Checkout the difference in size between the 5.0 and the newer GT's 4.6 liter DOHC. (the v45 is a cammed engine by the way)

jeelanim · #19 02-07-2003, 07:37 AM

The only reason I want to drop a v8 into a 240sx is because I want to beat the domestic racers at theyre own game (and no, i will not drop a domestic engine into a 240sx:o) The vk45de and vh45de (vk sold in newer q45's, vh sold in older) is basically a "domestic inspired" nissan engine. It has the reliability and performance of a nissan, while having the size and 8 cylinders usually found in domestics.

The bottom line is, how can we get one of these in a 240sx? How much would a custom swap shop like unstable hybrids or something charge for this? How much will parts cost? What aftermarket are available for these engines?

And remember, there is no replacement for displacement. 8 cylinder nissan engines rule:frog:

meansman · #20 02-07-2003, 01:58 PM

the tranny would be the problem, i was reading some where on this forum or freshalloy that all nissans rwd car used the same engine monts( i dont know if it is true but they installed rb25det with out any mod of the car. and it would not cost 10,000 to drop a rb motor in a 240. the 6-7 would closer to reality.) what tranny would u use for this swap( auto tranny suck) if i am wrong please provide info thsi would help me out thanks

Suislide · #21 02-07-2003, 04:26 PM

i don't know where you've found your info, but it's near impossible for a 4.5 litre V8 engine, which is no doubt ALOT wider then the stock engine, to fit into the engine bay with no mod at all.

J SPEC SilEighty · #22 02-07-2003, 08:57 PM

dont know if you guys have seen it or not but there is a guy in Texas named Aries who has an LT1 powered S14. I think it's an awesome swap but there is a video on houston-imports.com of him gettin killed from about a 45 mph roll by a turbo lude running around 10 psi. I'm sure that the LT1 powered s14 is a beast from a stop but from a roll it just got killed. here are some pics of the guys car.

More info and pics of Project 240SS

Suislide · #23 02-08-2003, 12:15 AM

i give the man mad props for undertaking such a no-doubt laborious and money-sapping project...but honestly, i cannot stand it when people throw big ol' domestic V8's into such a pristine creature as the S14. makes me shake my head. but hey, his car, his money, i can't tell him what to do.

TatII · #24 02-08-2003, 09:17 AM

ahhh yes aries car. brining his car brings us to another point. if he spent all that money to put money in a LT1 engine, which is a pretty strong motor by the way, 340hp and over 350ftlb of torque strong. if he still got creamed by a turbo H22a. then why spend all that money on a V8? when you can just like 5 grand on a t3/t4 hybrid turbo running 21lbs of boost with forged internals. that will well bring you into the 12's. which much less money

Suislide · #25 02-08-2003, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TatII
ahhh yes aries car. brining his car brings us to another point. if he spent all that money to put money in a LT1 engine, which is a pretty strong motor by the way, 340hp and over 350ftlb of torque strong. if he still got creamed by a turbo H22a. then why spend all that money on a V8? when you can just like 5 grand on a t3/t4 hybrid turbo running 21lbs of boost with forged internals. that will well bring you into the 12's. which much less money

EXACTLY!!!!!

freethinker · #26 09-18-2003, 07:15 AM

I'm considering doing a VH41DE in my recently purchased S13. I am fairly sure it will fit physically. I will probably be cutting the firewall and moving the engine back about 20-25cm to keep weight distribution nice and give me room for turbos in front of engine, plus intercooler and radiator. Being that the Q motor is DOHC and 90degree V rather than the VG 60 degree V im not sure how well it will clear the strut towers. I'm damn near sure it WILL fit just from looking, but not sure about how tight it will be.

And by the way, there is NO SUCH THING as a VH45DETT and there never was. The engine in the R390 is the VRH35L and its a 3.5 liter twin turbo making about 600hp with intake restrictors. The engine pictured is not the R390 engine either, count the number of exhausr runners on each side. That is the engine from the early 90's Nissan GTP car known as the NP35 and P35, it is known as the VRT35, and guess what..... ITS A V12!!!! That is an extremely rare engine!!!! There is a guy here in FL who has an original P35 chassis that was converted to an open top WSC car and runs a Ferrari V8. I think it's called the X-250. He races it in HSC (historic sport car) races like before the main events at the Sebring and Daytona endurance races. BTW jeelanim, I post here very infrequently so if you want to contact me it would be best via email at [email protected]

Cheers,
Sean

SR20DETpower · #27 09-18-2003, 08:12 AM

A q45 engine is WAY bigger then a 5.0 mustang engine..........

DOHC vs OHV.......

the heads are like 3 times the size of 5.0 heads.

r390 makes 550hp.......
where in Florida do you live?

freethinker · #28 09-19-2003, 01:17 AM

I'm back and forth between Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach a lot. Currently live in West Palm Beach, looking for place in Broward.

-Sean

klohiq · #29 09-19-2003, 03:37 AM

want good power at a great price = CA18DET

good stock power and great potential at a decent price = SR20DET

want a lot of everything on a budget...RB25DET

You want a lot of everything and need huge hp get an RB26DETT

An RB26 can make more than enough power to make a RWD spin it's tires through all it's gears...the engine is great stock and astonishing modified. Some may think that a V6 or V8, either Nissan or not, is a better idea for the 240sx in terms of potential, but really for the price these 4 engines are nearly impossible to compare to...your best bet in having a chance to meet their cost per hp is a turbo KA. I'd be very surprised if you could get the VK45 to fit without spending over 15-20k for both engine and swap...then comes modifying it since you want to take advantage of all that power and not get killed by dinky 1-2k budget KA-Ts so now you are in the 20+k when you could just spend 10k on an RB26 and spend the rest on performance. I'm sure 10 grand in mods on an RB would make for one badass beast

mynismo · #30 09-19-2003, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freethinker

I'm considering doing a VH41DE in my recently purchased S13. I am fairly sure it will fit physically. I will probably be cutting the firewall and moving the engine back about 20-25cm to keep weight distribution nice and give me room for turbos in front of engine, plus intercooler and radiator. Being that the Q motor is DOHC and 90degree V rather than the VG 60 degree V im not sure how well it will clear the strut towers. I'm damn near sure it WILL fit just from looking, but not sure about how tight it will be.

And by the way, there is NO SUCH THING as a VH45DETT and there never was. The engine in the R390 is the VRH35L and its a 3.5 liter twin turbo making about 600hp with intake restrictors. The engine pictured is not the R390 engine either, count the number of exhausr runners on each side. That is the engine from the early 90's Nissan GTP car known as the NP35 and P35, it is known as the VRT35, and guess what..... ITS A V12!!!! That is an extremely rare engine!!!! There is a guy here in FL who has an original P35 chassis that was converted to an open top WSC car and runs a Ferrari V8. I think it's called the X-250. He races it in HSC (historic sport car) races like before the main events at the Sebring and Daytona endurance races. BTW jeelanim, I post here very infrequently so if you want to contact me it would be best via email at [email protected]

Cheers,
Sean

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