Performance upgrades - Page 2

gthompson97 · #16 10-30-2007, 12:38 AM

Definitely worth the money, IMO, the UDP is going to give you more of a gain though. As for a CAI, a true CAI or a short ram will do you just fine.

SilvrEclipse · #17 10-30-2007, 08:56 AM

Cat-back exhaust and a header should give you a little bit more. A bored out throttle body might help a little. You will end up wanting more power and will eventually put a turbo kit on it.

l_eclipse_l · #18 10-30-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeShmoeAltima

l eclipse l, is that the V2 intake? how good is it in comparison against other CAIs, and where does the intake filter end up?

No its not...just a regular AEM. The filter is down in the bumper. I like it and would recommend it, but don't pay more than $100 for it. I got this one on eBay for like $90 shipped.

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Originally Posted by UnderEstimate Me

I doubt bolt-ons will get you to 160hp on the 420a. Unless you have some dyno sheets Im calling bs.

I was referring to crank hp. Nobody else is disputing my estimate who knows anything. I myself would be lucky to be around 147-148 crank hp and do not have all the mods I mentioned, so you get no dyno sheet. Unless you have a dyno sheet to prove me wrong or experience with the 420A, call BS on someone elses time.

SilvrEclipse · #19 10-31-2007, 12:08 AM

l eclipse l is not to far off. With a few bolt ons the 420a should be putting out around 160bhp. There are to many variables such as: air temp, wear on motor, how hot the motor is, and the dyno to determine how much power you WILL put out with the given mods, but that is the range it should be in.

new2mitsu · #20 10-31-2007, 12:08 AM

i had a 98 avenger with the 420a motor, header, catback ram air, and a 50 shot of nitrous. the nitrous the engine pretty much handled well stock... with the mods, i'd say i was right around 200 hp sprayin, although i have no way of truly knowing, i kno i would run about dead even with a mid ninetys mustang GT 4.6l. and including the nitrous, i probabally had less than a thousand in mods, that's the route i'd go if you're looking for cheap power outta the 420a.

gthompson97 · #21 10-31-2007, 12:18 AM

I wish I would have taken some base hp dyno pulls with my worthless RS before I started putting money into it. I'd like to know how much I'm gaining with the CAI, UDP, ported head with both manifolds matched, exhaust, and a bored TB. I bet I put down about 170 crank, if not a few ponies more. She's definitely got more pull in the higher RPMS than before, not much down low though, probably being cause it's an auto.

bleedEGLblue · #22 10-31-2007, 10:51 AM

That would be interesting to see what you can do to a e/t/l start to finish. Get that would be pretty cool to be able to hang up some sheets in the garage to brag to everyone that you freed up that many ponies.

rickyrickster25 · #23 10-31-2007, 03:20 PM

How much are dyno runs typically? I just started ripping my RS engine apart, and i could easily put it back together stock, if a few people wanted to pitch in a couple bucks or something, i wouldnt mind getting that info for you guys, being as its the direct route im taking with my RS.

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Originally Posted by UnderEstimate Me
I doubt bolt-ons will get you to 160hp on the 420a. Unless you have some dyno sheets Im calling bs.

I was referring to crank hp. Nobody else is disputing my estimate who knows anything. I myself would be lucky to be around 147-148 crank hp and do not have all the mods I mentioned, so you get no dyno sheet. Unless you have a dyno sheet to prove me wrong or experience with the 420A, call BS on someone elses time.

...I usually dont take sides, but damn... you got served, lol

david-b · #24 10-31-2007, 04:12 PM

Ah nOObs serving nOObs...

Don't worry I'll be getting mine dynoed next year. There will be no big changes from now til then. I basically did all the bolts on you can do before block rebuild and turbo.

new2mitsu · #25 11-02-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rickyrickster25

How much are dyno runs typically?

theres a place around here that about 100 bux a pull, and i think 250 if you get three

SilvrEclipse · #26 11-02-2007, 11:47 AM

Holy shit! $100/pull. When I dynoed mine it was $90/3 pulls with a/f. I Think most places charge about $75 for 3 pulls.

gthompson97 · #27 11-02-2007, 01:12 PM

Yeah I think the last time I was around a dyno it was like $30 a pull or $75-80 for 3.

david-b · #28 11-02-2007, 01:34 PM

I'm going to get mine dynoed next year, early spring. Then will hit up the track and put down some times and fine tune her up. Then we can all see with all bolt-ons, (minus turbo) exactly how much the 420a motor makes. Obviously as stated above many variables come into play, but we'll get a ball park figure.

Still taking donations for dyno day too. Paypal accepted.

new2mitsu · #29 11-02-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by new2mitsu

theres a place around here that about 100 bux a pull, and i think 250 if you get three

My bad, maybe thats an All Wheel Dyno...

rickyrickster25 · #30 11-04-2007, 03:10 PM

Just to give the 420A a little more pride, i took down my friends Dodge Stratus the other day which is pushing over 200 hp, plus he has a chip and a CAI, he has over 60hp on me and i took him down by almost a car length...

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