Sporty fast racing-quality sedans

[Morphius289]

Originally Posted by pollykok

Wouldn't it matter because..

4 Cyl with turbo + mods
would get owned by
8 Cyl with turbo + mods

I'd suggest researching companies like AMS and Boost Logic before making a comment like this.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by Twizted_3KGT

hahahahahahahahahhaahahaha

I can't believe people still think like this in this day and age

You're from one of those middle states aren't you?

I joke of course, but as others have already said it no longer matters how many cylinders you have, that was in the 70's/80's.

Yep as centeral as you can get, Nebraska here. And of course we all know here that more displacement means its faster.
SRT-4 is the biggest bang for the buck. Altima or maxima might not be a bad choice either if it is a newer one but they might be a little more spendy.

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by pollykok

Wouldn't it matter because..

4 Cyl with turbo + mods
would get owned by
8 Cyl with turbo + mods

Another noob go getter for AF. Sometimes the case, sometiems not.

[DinanM3_S2]

The 1980's BMW M12/13 Turbo 1.5l I4 is considered to be one of the greatest F1 engines of all time. 1,000+ hp, possibly as much as 1,500hp (they struggled with the dyno). This engine would still dominate the modern n/a 2.4l V8s or the older 3.0l V10s.

[pimp349]

^^^hahaha nice comparison

[TatII]

Originally Posted by pollykok

Hey, I'm looking to buy a nice used car from 5000-12000 dollars. I want a fast car, but I think I'm looking for a sedan style car, either a coupe or 4 doors.

Some cars I've been looking at are:

Nissan Maxima 2002 and up
Acura 3.2TL Type-S
Honda Accord v6
Mazda6


Anyone have any suggestions for me?

Which of these cars, or other sedans that are fast and sporty, would be good for upgrading to get high horsepower? Which overall would make the best sporty fast powerful sedan? (take cheap mods into accout)


Ok thanks.

its funny how you asked how a WRX could keep up with those cars when stock for stock its the fastest car out of all those cars you listed.

the car thats on my mind is the older Bi-Turbo Audi S4's seems to be a good choice if you can afford to maintain it.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by TatII

its funny how you asked how a WRX could keep up with those cars when stock for stock its the fastest car out of all those cars you listed.

the car thats on my mind is the older Bi-Turbo Audi S4's seems to be a good choice if you can afford to maintain it.

Those S4's are damn nice, but hard to find with decent milage on them, most of the time they have about 70-80k miles on them, which in terms of VW/Audi it mean time for a major tune-up.

Another option would be to grab an 03-04 VW jetta 1.8t. It's a compact sport sedan, turbo, great gas milage, rather light weight and they take to mods like crack. only thing is you need to be on top of matainance once they hit around 50k miles.

[CassiesMan]

If you can swing 389 a month, you can lease a MB C300 Sport or BMW 328i Sedan.

[Polygon]

No question, I would spring for an M5 even though it might be out of your price range.

[SilentNIght1647]

Let's do a quick comparison:

My Twin Turbo 383=800HP at the wheels/950ft/lbs Cost=$4700

My Single Turbo Datsun L31=450HP at the wheels/375ft/lbs Cost=$6000

Now granted there were things that went wrong the L series and things I didn't need but the basic principle remains it's easier to make power with more cubic inch, which is why if I was you I'd opt for the Maxima, you get decent cubic inch and their not obscenly expensive.

[TatII]

Originally Posted by SilentNIght1647

Let's do a quick comparison:

My Twin Turbo 383=800HP at the wheels/950ft/lbs Cost=$4700

My Single Turbo Datsun L31=450HP at the wheels/375ft/lbs Cost=$6000

Now granted there were things that went wrong the L series and things I didn't need but the basic principle remains it's easier to make power with more cubic inch, which is why if I was you I'd opt for the Maxima, you get decent cubic inch and their not obscenly expensive.

except for until he tries to find a turbo kit that will fit under that hood. The cost of a turbo or forced induction for any of those 6 cylinders are not cheap because they require some special engineering to make it fit. But yes you do have a point but there is definitly more to it than what you said.

[SilentNIght1647]

So make it fit, I'm sorry but just because they don't make a kit that bolts right on is not an excuse. I guess I'm a little too old school, though, most hot rodders these days seem to give up if they can't find something that will just bolt on. I mean hell do you actually think I could have put together that 383 for $4700 if I bought one of the off the shelf twin setups? I've seen kits that cost that much. So after buying some cheapy headers I built my own setup. Granted not everyone can do that but I can guarntee you know somebody who can help.

[TatII]

Originally Posted by SilentNIght1647

So make it fit, I'm sorry but just because they don't make a kit that bolts right on is not an excuse. I guess I'm a little too old school, though, most hot rodders these days seem to give up if they can't find something that will just bolt on. I mean hell do you actually think I could have put together that 383 for $4700 if I bought one of the off the shelf twin setups? I've seen kits that cost that much. So after buying some cheapy headers I built my own setup. Granted not everyone can do that but I can guarntee you know somebody who can help.

by all means i'm not disagreeing with you. I was just pointing out the hidden cost on a few of those cars that he has listed.

[6Cobalt]

Who said to grab a malibu ss earlier? Nah- spring for a Cobalt SS. 2.0L 4-banger with FI and 250hp stock. Real nice selection of mods for them right now, GMPP offering a few basic bolt-ons that don't even void your warranty. The 07's are going cheap right now, base price is around 17-20K depending where you shop. They'r gonna be rare too, since they aren't making an '08 model (engine doesn't met new emissions).
They're a chevy, so you know they ride smooth, and are nice and roomy on the inside. 2 door only though. They're hot cars, i'd have gotten one instead of my LS if i'd have been able to swing the payment.
DON'T DO WHAT I DID! Don't settle for anything less than the SS. The other models and years come with the risk of getting a SAI, making them unmoddable. The '07 lower models lack any form of tuning at the moment, so turbo or massive HP gains are out of the question unless you wanna blow the engine.