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02-20-2003, 08:08 AM
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Last edited by jkbon; 02-20-2003 at 08:53 AM. 
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#18
02-20-2003, 08:14 AM
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and another silver one
http://www.qv500.com/adstaylorf1.htm
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#19
02-20-2003, 11:12 AM
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#20
02-20-2003, 07:25 PM
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 **Check out the photo below of the wheels lined up in front of the Gulf-Team Davidoff F1 GTR racing trailer. Those wheels are made by OZ Racing and feature the same centerlock hub design used on the standard McLaren F1 wheel. Sure there may be similar wheels on the market that use a standard lug system, including OZ's own street version known as the Super Turismo, but I asure you that those wouldn't be some cheap knock off. If you want to see an ugly wheel on a McLaren F1, check out the photos of Dan Kennedy's F1 at SEMA this past year or look at the modular wheel McLaren Cars chose for the long tail road car, the F1 GT. FYI: All of the other LM-kitted cars that I have seen use the original '95-'96-spec GTR wheel btw, so it appears this owner was just looking for something a bit different. >8^) ER
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#21
02-20-2003, 07:36 PM
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I agree with I-Tech all the way. Those wheels are hideous! They look like the wheels on the Mercedes CLK-GTR, I mean Heres the McLaren from Sema, I think these are the best rims I've ever seen on the McLaren, IMO. Peloton25, I-Tech never said anything about the wheels being cheap. Everyone though is entitled to their own opinion, and respect that. This is just my view.
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#22
02-20-2003, 08:28 PM
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To say that it was shameful implies to me that I-Tech feels those wheels are cheap or substandard for inclusion on an F1 and for that I call him wrong. If you or he chooses not to like the design, that's fine, but he needs to word it as such. Quote:
 Do we really have to see that again??  Apparently you find those wheels attractive. Personally, I don't even think a wheel like that belongs on the Hummer H2 that was towing it. I guess that is the style that some people prefer but it's outrageous to go adding a wheel like that to the F1. I had always thought there'd be no chance for someone to add "dubs" to a McLaren because of the high cost associated with making wheels to fit the centerlock bolt system. When I saw that at SEMA I was simply shocked. To put 'looks' above 'performance', which I will guarantee those heavy chrome wheels would affect, is almost sacrilege in the case of the F1. If Gordon Murray were dead people would say that he was "rolling in his grave". Since he's alive, hopefully he has flown to Arizona to smack Dan upside the head. >8^) ER
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#23
02-20-2003, 09:17 PM
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McLaren Wheels, etc.
Gentlemen,
I am aware of both cars that you list here for sale. Both cars are of reasonable quality and are priced accordingly at market value. In the case of the downforce kit car, the owner has indeed installed the longtail-type wheels. I don't mind the wheel at all. I think they look better on the longer car, but it is indeed something different. I do like the red color, but I don't find it as attractive as the burgundy that was painted on the clinique model for promotional purposes. I think we discussed that at length in another thread. The silver car is a stock car with no frills or extras. Moderate miles and again market priced. Peleton, I do agree with you, the wheels on Dan's car are not to my liking at all. I am of the opinion that the original is best. Not only that, the original wheels are designed to perform within the ability of the car. There is no question as to whether or not the wheel can handle the speeds and agility that the car can dish out. You can trust the original equipment. With the shiny chrome "dubs", they are not certified to even be able to go freeway speeds. There are very few wheel manufacturers that actually have their wheels Engineered to handle specific limits and are certified as such. If I had the chance to drive that car with those wheels, I would in no way risk my life and the car to speeds more than 70-100mph. As to the look, well, that is up to each individual, but for me and performance, only original will do. I feel the red downforce car should have the LM-type wheels on it. They are the correct wheel to accurately emmulate the LM look they have achieved with the downforce kit in the first place.
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#24
02-21-2003, 01:02 AM
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I agree that original is the best for supercars, especially the McLaren. And I know not everyone likes aftermarket wheels, and respect that. Just one thing, I'm almost positive that those wheels are the same as the factory specs, not DUBS. I think this b/c of the size of the tire. It appears to be a 35 series tire.
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#25
02-21-2003, 07:53 AM
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Wheels
Texas,
The tires installed on the car can are correctly rated for the speeds the McLaren can achieve, but the wheels have not been tested to 200+mph. They are not rated for that level of stresses. The tires, yes, the wheels no. The stresses and loads present in a wheel on a car doing 200mph are unbelievable. Also keep in mind these wheels (also the original) are aluminum castings, some of them are billet. A billet wheel is in most cases superior in strength to a cast wheel. The main reason being the billet is made at a forging company that can control every aspect of the alloy and result in the desired alloy with specific strengths and ductility. The higher quality cast wheel manufacturers also heat temper their cast wheels. This does make them noteably stronger, but typically not stronger than a billet wheel. The difference in a billet wheel from a cast wheel is a billet wheel is 100% machined. A cast wheel is molten aluminum poured into a mold. It may later be machined in areas to result in a desired appearance, but it is still a cast wheel. Better still than even billet is a forged wheel. The forging process allows the metal matrix to be further compressed which translates into strength. One other concern is the fact that if a casting is not done properly or to high enough standards, the chroming process can actually make the wheel weaker. Fatigue and stress fracturing can propogate micro cracks initiated by the chroming process. In time, these micro cracks can become Macro Cracks at speed, the result is not pretty. I won't run chrome wheels on any exotic unless I do the research on the manufacturer to be sure they have properly qualified the wheel. For normal cars, it isn't near the problem, because the speeds and forces are much lower. Buying a correctly rated tire is the easy part. 
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#26
04-22-2003, 12:21 AM
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another one
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#27
04-29-2003, 12:50 PM
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#29
05-01-2003, 11:17 PM
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