Questions on applying perfect paint job!

[freakray]

Originally Posted by jbain

I've just been reading thru this link and I am amused by all the fuss and bother that you have to go thru, to get a reasonable coat of paint onto a model.

Having NEVER used any acrylic paint on any model at all, I'm just wondering if ALL this fuss and bother is really worth going to.

Why is it that Enamel type paints ARE NOT used more often, brands like Testors, Humbrol or even normal enamel house paint, the type you paint a door with?

But why this fixation of just using Acrylics on models and having to spray the model ten or more times and all the rubbing down between coats?

Ok, I can understand some people's need to use metallic type paints that are commonly used in the car repair industry, so as to be able to get that certain look they require. Or to get that certain colour that is only available with these type of paints

But if people are after that super shiny look, as tho the paint is still wet, they can achieve this by only using ENAMEL PAINTS, by only having to use the spray gun three times. This way there is NO great build up of paint, to hide any detail, or to leave that dreaded orange peel look on the model.
Just need to spray the undercoat, then the top colour coat and if required to hold down decals, a clear top coat. All by using the Enamel paints that are used on your house, it's cheaper than buying model paint and it works.

If any body is interested in how this can be achieved, they can contact me thru the private messages.

Real easy when you think about it.

While your claims intrigue me, I find them highly improbable.

Search the forum for the reason why people are using the paints they are to paint their model. Understand the different types of paints better, and also understand that different paint are more freely available in some countries.

And for your reference, my whole house is painted with Latex based paints which you can't get up to the same shine as a well sprayed polished lacquer.

[davesans]

Correct me if I am wrong but don't ENAMEL PAINTS dry one layer at a time. So if you put a mist coat of enamel paint down you now have to wait a few days for it to completely dry before applying the next coat. Where the Acrylic Base coats paint dry with in a few hours.
I have not used Zero paint yet I bought a bottle for my current build and an excited about not having to put down a wet coat might take me longer to do. But from what I seen so far the end result it worth it.

[KEFLON]

Trust me doing light coats with the Zero paints is the right way, I just finished my 4th light coat and I think I ready to clear coat! The colour becomes very rich very quickly with out any orange peel, very economical paint indeed I have only used about 1/5 of a 60ml bottle and have virtually finished a 1/9th scale bike.

Its Zero paints from now on!

Now to test Tamiya primer cos Im sick of Halfords primer, doesn't stick well and get very thick very quickly causing mass orange peel!

Btw on the enamal subject: Its good for matt finishes but in terms of glossy finishes I wouldn't reommend due to the cureing time - it takes v long!

[cyberkid]

Originally Posted by KEFLON

Now to test Tamiya primer cos Im sick of Halfords primer, doesn't stick well and get very thick very quickly causing mass orange peel!

Btw on the enamal subject: Its good for matt finishes but in terms of glossy finishes I wouldn't reommend due to the cureing time - it takes v long!

Both Gunze's Mr Surfacer and Tamiya's primers have worked well for me under Zero paints.

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by jbain

I've just been reading thru this link and I am amused by all the fuss and bother that you have to go thru, to get a reasonable coat of paint onto a model.

Having NEVER used any acrylic paint on any model at all, I'm just wondering if ALL this fuss and bother is really worth going to.

Why is it that Enamel type paints ARE NOT used more often, brands like Testors, Humbrol or even normal enamel house paint, the type you paint a door with?

But why this fixation of just using Acrylics on models and having to spray the model ten or more times and all the rubbing down between coats?

Ok, I can understand some people's need to use metallic type paints that are commonly used in the car repair industry, so as to be able to get that certain look they require. Or to get that certain colour that is only available with these type of paints

But if people are after that super shiny look, as tho the paint is still wet, they can achieve this by only using ENAMEL PAINTS, by only having to use the spray gun three times. This way there is NO great build up of paint, to hide any detail, or to leave that dreaded orange peel look on the model.
Just need to spray the undercoat, then the top colour coat and if required to hold down decals, a clear top coat. All by using the Enamel paints that are used on your house, it's cheaper than buying model paint and it works.

If any body is interested in how this can be achieved, they can contact me thru the private messages.

Real easy when you think about it.

Dude, IMHO you have a "posting attitude" problem.

[drunken monkey]

don't forget, to get a "perfect" paint finish, you need both a well polished surface and a perfectly flat and blemish free body.
I've got a BMW M1 kit that has the best finish of the paint on any of my built kits but because the body wasn't smoothed out properly (there are slight curves and bumps where there shouldn't be) the reflections are slightly warped.

As MPWR said, a lot of what the end result looks like depends on how much time you prepare the body. For me, I spend much more time on the primer stages than the painting stages.

[MPWR]

Originally Posted by KEFLON

Trust me doing light coats with the Zero paints is the right way, I just finished my 4th light coat and I think I ready to clear coat! The colour becomes very rich very quickly with out any orange peel, very economical paint indeed I have only used about 1/5 of a 60ml bottle and have virtually finished a 1/9th scale bike.

Its Zero paints from now on!

Cool- glad to hear it's working for you!