modding a 94 sc 2

[daveshapellSVT]

yea i'm thinking he should go with bolt on's for now. thats what most ppl do anyways. plus he does have a dohc so he can actually get somewhere with small mods. start off with a coldair intake,catback exhaust, header, underdrive pulleys, maybe a throttle body. then once you've become familiar with your car get some cams and maybe a ported intake manifold. i'm sure that would be quick and fun. definatley be good for low 15's i bet. which for a newbie is pretty quick.

[exzou]

powerplant? fancy word for engine?

[exzou]

well it looks like im far t to new (figured as much) to accomplish what i want on my own so my plan is this: turbo, bolt on mods, new paint, new interior with a new drivers car seat and ignition switch being top priority, what should i get. id like a list of part names, if possable ordering numbers, cost and were to get them ONLINE again, saturns are so uncommon around here theres only 3 saturns sitting in the scrap yard so im limited on custom parts and what not

[sickcallawayc12]

www.spswebpage.com
www.saturnmotorsports.com

These sites are the place to go to make a stronger engine and essentially turbo ready if you wanna go that route.

[daveshapellSVT]

if i were you i'd just change my direction. I'd put together a nice cruiser. get a nice loud system in there with some chrome rims. get it lowered 2" with some springs. They do make body kits too. To me that sounds like a better idea for a saturn. nice tricked out slammed saturn that gets 30 mpg.

[exzou]

are parts from the 92 sc series compatable with the 94 sc2?

[sierrap615]

most parts are, the engine has a different crankshaft, the transmission has different gear ratios, the PCM and wiring is different, beside that everything should be the same or close enought to work.

[daveshapellSVT]

well the biggest difference betweein the sc2 and the sc1 are the heads. sohc versus dohc. the exhaust manifolds are different, intake manifolds, and yes the transmissions. the gears in the sc1 5 speed cars are taller. i have a sl1 and third gear is far too tall for the power the engine puts out. it's very irritating. You pretty much have to rev the engine to 3500-4000 rpms before shifting gears. In my 04 spec v i could shift at low rpms and the engine had enough torque to pull the car through the power band easily. I guess i could just drive around full throttle redlining it all the time

[MickeyRat]

exzou there's no real nice way to say this. You are definitely not ready to try turboing one of these. Don't even think about it. Some one that really knows what they are doing just might be able to pull it off for $2000 but, that's on their own car. You'd have to pay them a lot more than that to do it to yours. You need to learn a LOT more before you try to turbo one of these. You also need more money.

Some one mentioned turbosaturns. It is no more. Most of the people that used to be there have gone to sixth sphere. If you decide to go there exzou, I'd advise you stay quiet and read a lot. Those guys are not as nice as the people here and they'll laugh you off the board. Saturnfans is a little nicer and I'd advise you to start there in their mods section.

[exzou]

all right im restarting my thinking, im gonna make the car look decent before i do anything and learn all i can untell then. so. i need a new right and left door for my 94 sc2 and havnt been abl;e to find any online, could use some direction for that. and am wondering if any one has used the hoods on ebay and liked disliked them

[saturnspeed_12]

Originally Posted by daveshapellSVT

the difference in sc1 and sc2 is the sc1 is the sohc engine and the sc2 is the dohc. you have an sc2. Sohc means the engine is a single camshaft setup. Dohc means that the motor has two cams.

SC1,Sl1 have 100hp

SC2,Sl2 have 124hp<--- much better engine and transmission

If you are planning on modding your car i'd first look at howmany miles it has on it, and if it's running properly. if it's straight then i'd start off with some small simple mods. I'd get an aftermarket clutch installed by a local auto shop. check out SPS.com they make parts for saturns and they do sell clutches. after that i'd maybe get a catback exhaust. then i'd start saving up for a turbo kit. There is a site that makes them but i forget the address. just go on google and do a search for saturn turbo kits.

the thing about engine and trans being better is wrong. the engines are nearly the same, but different heads and pistons. trans wise, they are both just as tough, just different gear ratios. only downside, as with many other manufacturers transaxles, the diffs give under too much abuse.

there is too much bad information going around. turbosaturns forum is no more, but information is still up on main page. there is a back door "turbosaturns" that only the obsessed know about (like me). other then that, sixthsphere is where most migrated to. you also have plastikracing, street design auto, and differentracing to get help from. im a mod on sixthsphere.

but anyways, for $2k if you have fab skills and truly know how to mod, you can boost it. but saying that you can tune it and make it reliable is another thing.

also, the stock clutch can handle quite a bit more then most would ever think it could handle. when you near 170-200whp, look to at least an act street disc. anything above that, act 6 puck. remember, you are not always making that much power so the sperts that a "stock" clutch would see can usually handle it pretty well. engine wise, anything beyond 220whp start thinking about forged internals (depending on your tune!!!!). but i could go on if you were to keep the stock motor.

[daveshapellSVT]

in my experience with saturns the stock clutchs suck real bad. i would bet money that they couldn't handle 170whp correctly. my stupid sl1 is bone stock and that clutch slips like crazy under normal driving conditions and when i feel like a jackass and beat on my sl1 the clutch slips like a dick covered in KY jelly. there is no way a stock sl1 clutch can handle 170whp without slipping ridiculously.

Secondly, in my opinion, the mp3 tranny(sohc tranny) is absolutely horrible for anything. i speaking mainly about how tall third gear is. why would they put taller gears in the less powered car. in all seriousness my sl1 cannot pull third gear. i'll be driving around and i'll shift into third and it just bogs like crazy. now i know why dohc saturn guys look badly at the sohc engines. they truley are garbage. ha 100hp and fuckin moon gears. wtf