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Old 09-13-2001, 07:29 PM
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Isn't that what he said?
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Old 09-13-2001, 07:49 PM
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Oh, yeah. Duh. I read wrong.
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Old 09-13-2001, 08:06 PM
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Heh...happens a lot, doesn't it??
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Heh...happens a lot, doesn't it??
Lately, yes.
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Having the cabin sealed off is all well and good, but it is far from a perfect solution.

For example - what happens if the flight crew fall ill? You are gonna end up with a plane flying by itself with no way of getting to the crew to help them.

Also, although this solution would stop the terrorists taking control of the plane directly, it won't stop the majority of hijackings. You see, all the terrorists have to do is start stabbing flight attendants and passengers, and then the pilot is going to have to fly the plane to where the terrorists want. If the pilot doesn't, then well, he is going to be flying a giant tomb with an awful lot of dead people on board.

So whilst the "sealed off cabin" would have prevented the events of Tuesday, they aren't much use for the majority of terrorist situations
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Anyway, the cockpit is already sealed off to the main cabin - you can only open the door from the cockpit side I believe.
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In Isreal, for the airline El Al, the cabin is sealed off. That means if they started to stab the crew and passengers, you would in essence be flying a giant coffin. While that may solve the problem of someone taking control of the aircraft, it won't solve the problem if they have a bomb.
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Trouble with computer control over ride is that the hijacker has more then likely got a gun at the captains head and will kill him if they take over the plane or blow it up.
Be a horrible choice to make from the control tower.
Thats true... But the other thing I just thought of is the Terrorist can just hack the frequency and take control of the plane without even being on it.. OK... Thats not a good idea afterall.
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i think they should have armed guards on the plane that are unmarked, just in regular clothing... the terrorists won't know what hit'em
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i think they should have armed guards on the plane that are unmarked, just in regular clothing... the terrorists won't know what hit'em
I'm not sure if that will work.

You have seem all the movies with that situation, and not always everything turn out well. Don't hit me, I know, it's Holliwood, but then again, there is always a posibility that those arms fall in the hands of the bad guys, and then situations are worse.

Again, I don't think there is a perfect solution.
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My solution is not really a solution but more of an Opinion. From what I have noticed lately, at most Airports that are wroking, they are very tight security measures being put into place. From what I can put together however is that, these terrorists have been planning for a Very. Very long time. They are not going to thorw something together in 5 min and decide to Hijack a PLane, they have taken everything into account and know the risks and types of security that is at the Airport. Secuirty is tight now, but someone said it will only be for now, what about a month from now when things die down?

What we need is a 100% or 99.9999999999% Secure system that will stop the Hijackers at possibly the pssengers' expense, I know I sound evil, but look what happened. Not only the passengers that died, but thousands of people in buildings and on the ground died.

So basically what I am saying is the best Idea that I think has been put for, Separately enclose the Cabin (With absolutely no Internal Door) from the rest of the Aircraft, yes there are some problems that may come up, but I'd rather be flying a Coffin that can be landed rather than be flying a Human Bomb full of gas. In the ned the Potential Loss of Life is a lot less nay way you look at it.
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New idea: Sedate all passengers.

Honestly, society at large will never give up enough civil liberties and freedoms to make air travel 100% safe. Some psycho will always be clever or resourceful enough to get through.
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That's actually a good idea but It sounds expensive and some people (Not Terorists) Might object, I don't know If I would want to be sedated when the Pilot dosen't see that Mountain on the Radar. He'd be screaming over the Radio and we'd all be sleeping, I mean in an actual emergency situation, There would be no way of easily waking the passegers.

Maybe straight Jackets but that's going a little bit overboard.
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So basically what I am saying is the best Idea that I think has been put for, Separately enclose the Cabin (With absolutely no Internal Door) from the rest of the Aircraft, yes there are some problems that may come up, but I'd rather be flying a Coffin that can be landed rather than be flying a Human Bomb full of gas.
Correct...as hard as it may seem, it would be far better to lose the plane and passengers only, then to see what happen to the WTC.

If the plane is able to land again with the hijackers on board it will save a lot of time. The FBI will know who they are etc etc and track down all the info on them.
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