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Old 05-11-2007, 03:16 AM
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The only time FWD is better than RWD is when cost is involved. cheaper to make, cheaper to drive.
I would disagree with that statement. With the minute power his stock SL is putting down, a differential would only lead cause unnecessary drivetrain loss. At 200hp, with both cars being heavy, I think he has an advantage in the fact that he is FWD, and has a higher redline. Obviously, for high powered applications, you want a push rather than a pull, so RWD is the only way to go, but not in this case (imo).

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they get 2**hp at 5500RPM's (but i could be wrong) so does that mean shat I should shift at 5500 for max power, or should i push to 6000 so im at higher rpm's when i get to the next gear?
Horespower is continuously variable throughout the RPM band. Even though you may be making peak hp below redline, shifting at redline is what you want in a drag race (unless is is completely detrimental; like running a T-25 turbo to redline, where your making much more heat than power, and its not worth it, since you are likey to get knock). You decrease wheel torque by half per shift. It's all math relating to gearing, and the same reason why many small motor cars can outcompete much larger engined competitors. A 500 tq car that redlines at 3000RPM wont get far if its put up against a 200tq car that redlines at 10,000RPM. hp = (tq * RPM)/5252. It's all about hp and gearing.

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Re: Before I make an Ass of myself...

Well I just noticed that the mustang is auto. I aparently missed that part the first time. That gives you a better shot as long as you can launch the car and shift well. I think it will be close. Now go race him and find out.
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K guys thanks for all that, I think im just gonna go ahead and do it. The only reason I wasn't goin to is beacause he's already a spoiled stuck-up ass hole who thinks hes better than everyone, and I didnt want to give him another reason to think so. My ultimate goal is to beat him and wipe that smirk off of his face, but at the same time I DEFINITELY dont want to be the reason that it gets even bigger, ya kno?
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Re: Before I make an Ass of myself...

Quick question on redlining...if the max RPMs is 9000, but the numbers turn red at 7000, am I "redlining it" once I pass 7000, or am I "redlining it" when i reach the end at 9000?
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Old 05-11-2007, 09:26 AM
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Yeah definitely take it from me personally i raced a 06 auto mustang straight piped, i beat him by 2 car lengths, i have intake, full exhaust, underdrive pulley, then again this mustang was in good condition. I would like to say stock they run low 15's to mid 15's if they are infact automatic.
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Re: Before I make an Ass of myself...

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Quick question on redlining...if the max RPMs is 9000, but the numbers turn red at 7000, am I "redlining it" once I pass 7000, or am I "redlining it" when i reach the end at 9000?
....OMG don't race him rofl....

REDlining is when the needle hits the RED part of the tachometer.
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I agree bro i think you should hold up on the race do some practice runs with experience stick drivers, i'm not doubting your capabilities to shift but just to have a little experience under your wing on redlining may help oh I'd say a lot!
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Old 05-11-2007, 10:20 AM
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Re: Before I make an Ass of myself...

Ok see thats what I thought, but then ther was that comment about a car redlining at 10000 RPMS and that is close to the 9000 on mine, so I thought that someone was saying that it was different from what I thought
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Ok see thats what I thought, but then ther was that comment about a car redlining at 10000 RPMS and that is close to the 9000 on mine, so I thought that someone was saying that it was different from what I thought
haha, no bro, there are many motors that redline at 9K RPM or above (many are modded, of course). The SBR 6-bolt 4g63 I got for my Spyder had a 10,000 RPM redline, actually tested to 9,200RPM by SBR. Redline starts when the numbers start going red.

And yeah, I think you should maybe wait a little before you race. Go practice some launches at your local 1/4 strip (hopefully you have one near you), and for this particular race, launch is so important, since both cars are more or less evenly matched, though I think you may have a tiny advantage over him.
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The SBR 6-bolt 4g63 I got for my Spyder had a 10,000 RPM redline, actually tested to 9,200RPM by SBR.
that's Nucking Futs...
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you should have him no problem, ive raced plenty of punkstangs in my sl and have come out the victor in all. if you dont feel confident then race him from a roll from personal experience ive pulled on 05,06,07 and foxbodys faster from a roll.
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Foxbodys aint nothing. Heck 79-98 V8 Stangs stock are an even race with a DOHC. 99+ V8's are more of TT territory. The V6s really didnt grow any balls until 05.
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Foxbodys aint nothing. Heck 79-98 V8 Stangs stock are an even race with a DOHC. 99+ V8's are more of TT territory. The V6s really didnt grow any balls until 05.
I never though they were that slow until I dusted the crap out of one myself, and I couldnt beleive it. I mean, the SL isn't quick by any standard, and I was just amazed how slow those early stock V-8s were. Like, wtf were these engineers thinking man?? All that displacement, and still slow? First thing that comes to mind is silly gearing. Sht, the 455 ci big block in my '69 Toronado is 400hp and about 450tq...at 2800RPM. That beast is slower than a geo metro, though it could probably tow a house.
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...400hp and about 450tq...at 2800RPM. That beast is slower than a geo metro, though it could probably tow a house.
ROFL. definitely quotable.
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:09 AM
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Re: Before I make an Ass of myself...

Impossible, I have a geo metro, and in all its 55hp 46mpg glory it is the slowest vehicle I have ever driven.

It was kinda odd owning a 1 liter car that is 55 hp, and a 1 liter motorcycle that was 155hp.
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