240SX vs Probe

[MaximusGTR]

Can't compare these cars, IF I would choose one, i would have to say NISSAN!!!

[J SPEC SilEighty]

Originally posted by S13_Iketani
yeah, but then look at the parts you have on your probe. 'nuf said. looks like you're the wrong kind of person to be owning a 240SX.

I agree

Originally posted by S13_Iketani
KA's suck

heh, tell that to duy

[Suislide]

ok i was hasty. they don't suck, but they're worse off then an SR.

[Fliquer]

The probe GT only has 10 more horsepower than the 240sx yet it weighs 200lbs more. RWD is better for traction purposes so the 240sx could launch at higher rpms (their torque peaks are almost identical). I would have to guess they are about the same in acceleration.

[MaximusGTR]

Its cheaper to heavily mod the 240 than the probe... If I were to choose, once again i'd go nissan

[Probe-GTR]

Originally posted by S13_Iketani
yeah, but then look at the parts you have on your probe. 'nuf said. looks like you're the wrong kind of person to be owning a 240SX.

How so ??? jsut cause i can probably blow your doors off means i cant drive a 240???. And those stats where stock on stock read sports compact they compared the 2.



plus, you're not going to make much friends around here talking like that. the stock 240SX has a crap-tacular engine. KA's suck. once you stick an SR in there, the story is over for the anal probe. also, FR vs. FF. sure the probe can probably beat a 240 (by a little bit) going in a straight line, but once you hit the twisties, i'll take a 240 any day thank you very much. oh, and the reason we prefer the MX6? the lack of a certain blue oval... [/quote]
I never said the 240 was craptacular i wouldnt of gotten one if i thought so but then again it seems your Iq is very low.If you check the original thread starter was inquiring bout the stock ka24de not a 3,500 dollar engine.I can spend 900 dollars and get a klze which has 200 hp and 180 tq which i can use with the stock tranny and the american spec kl03 parts direct fit.No need to wait for parts to be imported etc. ZE powered probe = 14.4 [/b][/quote]
As for the rest of u guys u got a nice platform keep it up.

[Suislide]

How so ??? jsut cause i can probably blow your doors off means i cant drive a 240???. And those stats where stock on stock read sports compact they compared the 2.

yes you can blow my doors off. if you knew how to read profiles, then you would see i drive a Pontiac Tempest. a CAMEL could blow my doors off for christ's sake. did i ever say i could blow your doors off? NO! so don't pull things out of your ass (except for the rod that's up there...)

but then again it seems your Iq is very low.If you check the original thread starter was inquiring bout the stock ka24de not a 3,500 dollar engine.I can spend 900 dollars and get a klze which has 200 hp and 180 tq which i can use with the stock tranny and the american spec kl03 parts direct fit.No need to wait for parts to be imported etc. ZE powered probe = 14.4

you seem to be the one with the low IQ. yeah i said compare it to the SR20DET, but you think i didn't read the original post? i'm not just going to come and post without reading what's already been said. and since you're so obsessed with your KLZE, let's compare ZE to SR, shall we??

SR: 1/4 mile time = 14.25
ZE (according to you) = 14.4

SR horsepower (S13) = 205
ZE = 200

SR torque (S13, lb-ft) = 203
ZE = 180

so there you go, you've lost in every category there. and who even wants to take a 240SX in a drag race anyways? that's not what they were made for. take it and your lilly Probe onto a road course and you'd lose yet again, no matter what engine you had in there. and since the SR is so good, i'd be more then willing to wait for all the parts to come over from Japan. better in my mind then trusting american made parts. i'd also be more then willing to pay $2500 for an SR. it's well worth it.

[SR20DETpower]

14.9 eh? a completely stock Sr will blow your doors off. And most people who swap SR's usually get better clutches, cone type intake, downpipe, catback, and even s-afc's as soon as the swap it, so your average SR swap in the USA with a good driver might dip into 13's without messing with boost, thats just an estimate though. If you would take a FORD vs a NISSAN then obviously nobody you know is a mechanic LMAO! I drove a ford for awhile, bad tranny, shitty air, calipers would lock, can't get 0 camber without cutting the strut towers up front so tires wear bad, lets see what else, eats oil, tie rods break a lot, my radiator cracked, errrr headgasket blew... hmmm what else LMAO some people have 240's for a lot longer then I had that ford and don't have problems even similar to that as far as maitenance. My Brother in law used to design parts for fords in Michigan, a fact he told me is parts per million, FORD has the highest percentage of allowing defective parts to be used, not too good of quality control if you ask me.

[Fliquer]

Stock vs Stock, the nissan is better: reliability, handling, and acceleration.

I once met a guy who had a klze probe. Im pretty certain I remember him saying he did a 14.9 in the quarter (he had a few mods too). An Sr20det s14 will do 14.9 in the quarter too (time from best motoring), but with the turbo it doesnt take much modification to put it in the low 13s.

[Probe-GTR]

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
14.9 eh? a completely stock Sr will blow your doors off.

Funny considering i have a 13.4 at moroso and didnt have to spend 3,500 to do it.

[Probe-GTR]

Originally posted by S13_Iketani



so there you go, you've lost in every category there. and who even wants to take a 240SX in a drag race anyways? that's not what they were made for. take it and your lilly Probe onto a road course and you'd lose yet again, no matter what engine you had in there. and since the SR is so good, i'd be more then willing to wait for all the parts to come over from Japan. better in my mind then trusting american made parts. i'd also be more then willing to pay $2500 for an SR. it's well worth it.

The fight of the discontinued cars.
Either way you see this you have to view it not from a personal perspective but from an automotive one. First the obvious. Front engine Rear wheel drive Vs Front engine Front wheel drive. Normally the front engine rear wheel drive would have the advantage but in stock trim the suspension setting are set to soft for the 240sx. It may have a great chassis but you wont be able to tell with the amount of body roll you will feel. Performance wise they really aren't in the same category. I've raced a few N/A 240sx and even when I was stock I wouldn't have a problem with them. Aftermarket its not even close. Its one of the main reason I'm got a 240sx. You can make one extremely fast for little money. But we are not talking about aftermarket are we. We are talking about stock Vs stock. Check out the article on car and driver. 240sx Vs Probe GT, Vs Prelude SH, Vs Integra GSR. They raced the cars on a course and its easy to guess who came in last. Yup you guessed right the 240sx. Im not saying it cant be made fast. We know it has all the potential in the world. It has 10 time the potential of the probe. But in stock trim lets be honest. Its rather tame (Japan not included). Take it to the track against a Probe Gt and that front wheel drive car will embarrass you. Take it as you will but before you reply take your time and do just a little research.
As for the guy with the brain in his ass S13 if you check the specs on your own car the low 14 is hit using a s15 spec sr20 not the anemic non valve timing engine.And i never said i liked the ZE if i did dont u think i wouldve had one.
As for sr20det if you got a sr20det i want you to race my cousins probe.BAsic turbo kit stock internal 242 whp on 5 psi look up lude speed in florida.

[Suislide]

i'm not even going to waste my time trying to argue with you. first of all your user name is Probe GTR and you claim to own a Probe GTR. i can't even begin to explain what's wrong with that. second of all, you have Nos on your car. there's your 13.4 right there. Nos is gay. i would never let Nos withint 200 feet of my 240SX. sure it gives performace, but it's so over-rated and such an unfair advantage. take off the Nos and i doubt you'd have much. second of all, custom painted interior, carbon fibre shift knob and huge wing? those must all make you REALLY fast right?? your head is so far up your ass it's coming out of your mouth. of course i researched before i typed. what the hell do you think i am, some 12 year old ricer? no, i know my 240's and got that figure from a reputable source. and soft suspension on a 240SX?? do i HAVE to begin on that one??? the 240SX is without a doubt one of the best handling non-super-sports car that's been made in a good while! you're Anal Probe will get it's ass handed to it on a silver platter on the road course, no matter how far you cut your springs. and frankly i don't give a shit if i lose to your cousin's car in the 1/4, because i hate drag racing. i wouldn't tune my car to BE a drag racer. i would still respect myself more for NOT owning a Probe. i totally agree that the 240SX STOCK will lose to a Probe (not by much). but my 240SX won't be staying stock for long. i'm done with this argument.

[Fliquer]

I would really like to see that article...

I've raced a few N/A 240sx and even when I was stock I wouldn't have a problem with them.

My drivetrain is completely stock, except for a b&m shifter I put in just two weeks ago. I also use 93 octane, if you think that makes a big difference. In the year I have owned my car, I've taken all 4 of the probes I've raced (they were all late model too). And all by at least 1 full length (that one was a 24v). Were you racing the sohc 240sx models?

As for Car and Driver, I dont consider their articles very accurate. I find that 90% of the time, their articles conflict with my real world experiences.

[Moppie]

Originally posted by Probe-GTR
2.5L V-Tech Eater!!!!!

Your car eats phones???

[MaximusGTR]

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Originally posted by Probe-GTR
2.5L V-Tech Eater!!!!!
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YOUR CAR EATS PHONES???

:thumbup: :hehe: LOL