M-speed protoge...

[tirminyl]

You can add 10psi safely. Some have gone to 12. In stock form it is 6.9 psi I believe.

Don't forget....turboed engine take very very well to mods.

[GBean009]

OK so when you are buying an economy car, buy an economy car. when you want a sports car, buy a sports car, not an ECONOMY Car with a "THEME"

[GBean009]

I found tha tthe protege has the best stock handling VS. the competion, E.G.> Sentra, civic, integra, lancer, and all those other over sold, overbought and over hyped imports.

[GBean009]

Just got back from the dealer, his price on the MSP was 21500, not too bad, but still 1000 over MSRP. The MSP suspension package for the ES Protege I have is A colossial 1850. I could stand to go elsewhere for that. It would only lower the car 1/2 in. in front and 1/4 in. in back. I don't want to lower my car, but if I had to, that is not bad. I will go somewhere else if I am ever interested. (pkg includes struts, springs, and swaybars, NOT strut tower brace.

[Kenetix]

I'm at 300 whp and 341 lbs of torque. I guess thats what happens when Mazda makes a shitty engine. Spec-V's are a hunk of shit. Overweight and underpowered. And just so you know, they turbo only pushes 5 psi from the factory. I guess 40+ hp is bad at 5 psi. But what do I know. . .

[DiS]

Originally Posted by Kenetix

Spec-V's are a hunk of shit. Overweight and underpowered.. And just so you know, they turbo only pushes 5 psi from the factory. I guess 40+ hp is bad at 5 psi. But what do I know. . .

Correct me if Im wrong. But seems like you are talking about the stock turbo of Spec-V. If so then, 2002, 2003, 2004 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V NEVER NEVER had a stock turbo. Bro you lie alot. No one even still made the turbo for it. There are 2 companies at b15sentra.com who are still working on their turbo kits. Bro you full of shit.

As far as everything else, YEA Mazda Protege DOES have better handling (own one, not the turbo one tho) But as far as performance, Nissan DOES HAVE better engines. here are the specs for the Spec-V 4 cylinder, 16 valve, 2.5 litter engine, 175 hp with 180 lbs/torque. CVTC - continous variable timing control. 2 timings. 2nd timing kicks in at 5,000rpm. Plus, Those 2 companies that develope turbo kits for Sentra's showed the dino results, which showed that Sentra engine can handle upto 10 psi on stock internal engine parts. My friend has that, meaning i drove that car alot. I mean COME ON, 4 cylinder engine pushes 175 n/a stock. Thats freaking good.

[Tommy1005]

Kinetix, I'm totally in agreement with you. I drove bothe the SER Spec V, and the Mazdaspeed, and I now have a 2003.5, titanium grey MSP sitting in my garage. Not only does it blow the Nissan's doors off in a straight line, it kicks a$$ in the corners too. I've had my car for all of 4 days, and already have a fairly extensive list of cars that I've completely blown away, and with a CAI, blow-off valve, T3/T4 hybrid, upgraded intercooler, and upgraded wastegate, and some Greddy tuning devices, it's adios to anyone who thinks they can run. So for 2000 on top of the 18K I paid for the car, I'm the fastes guy at the autocross and one of the fastest at the drag strip. Just my This car is awesome.

[Edison_Chen]

The Msp isn't too bad... I wish i had bought one...

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[Jrock88]

The ms protege has its good points, like excellent handling, smooth power, nice wheels, and preset up turbo kit. Stock makes 6.9 boost, swap in some lower comp pistons and you could get more.Problems: doesnt make that much power, could use more boost, maybe even a LSD.

But the S-ER Spec V has good stuff too. makes 175 horses, limited slip diff,good handling, etc. But it also has problems. Exterior, Interior a little lacking IMHO. Shifter said to be pretty bad. It also uses 2.5 liter. Engine would be more immpressive if it was 2.0 tho. oh well still fun.

I might the protege just because i like them but are good at what they do.

[mazdaspeed2l]

Do you guys even know what your talking about?
I own a Mazdaspeed and have driven the specV. I'll agree that the QV25 is a good engine, but the 2 liter in the Mazda has been around longer, so all the problems are worked out. Mazda was ultra-conservative with only running 6 psi of boost, they played it more than safe.

And as far as deals go,.....
The difference in price is more than offset by the Mazdas 17" Racing Hart wheels, sport suspension (best handling front driver in US), and awesome Kenwood system,.... plus the interior beats anything near its price range. I will agree that the SpecV has better seats,.... but thats not very hard to do.

Until next time,....

[97dsmeclipse]

ok look i have a 97 dsm (eclipse turbo) with a fmic, bov, boost controller, and full exhaust. my friend has a msp 03.5 blue very nice but it is slower than hell. The stock tires on the car have no grip compared to my gay toyo procs. We whent to the trak and i was running very low 14's almost 13's and he was runnig high 15's because he had no trackion. When we race on the highway i beet him so bad its not funny, he out runs my friends spec-v with headers and exhaust on the trak and highway. SO THE POINT IS GET A DAMN DSM AND HAVE THE BEST SINGLE-TURBO OUT RITE NOW.

[MazdaSpeeder00]

Originally Posted by Kris90LXBADA$$

I have raced a protege like this and they aint got nuthin on my SPEC. I beat him by about a half a car and he was pissed. I told him that it was stock and he almostcried. Just thought Id throw my 2 cents in.

Im not believe'n that!!! I have a Speed........and 2 weeks later my buddy went out and bought the Spec-V and so naturally we went to the track.......All 3 trips I beat him by over 2 cars........ Led the whole way.......

And trust me it wasnt the driver!

[myles108]

Honestly if anybody was ever wondering what car to get, the speed is the one. I had a 2003 spec-v in black, i loved it, however it was stolen from me. so now i bought a 2003.5 titanium mazda speed(with a boomerang) and let me tell u this car is 100 times btter then my spec v. it's louder, nicer, and doesnt have any problems. the speed is worth every dollar. so if anybody out there was interested in buying one i'd highly recomend it.

[myles108]

back to the spec vvs. speed discussion. i guess evrybody has there own opignion however i owned a 2003 spec v which unfortunatly had been solen so i decided to go out and but a 2003.5 speed. I'll be completly honest wehn i say the speed looks nicer and drives alot smoother then my spec v. All in all thoguh there both great cars.

[lastsaga]

i've got a 2003.5 mazdaspeed and having compared it to the spec-v, srt-4, civic si, and the celica gts, i feel like the msp is the best overall package. sure it may not be the quickest or the best looking (though none of the other cars are exactly beauty queens :P), it's just got that perfect feel. handling, throttle response, power..

DiS - kenetix was talking about a turbo on the mazdaspeed, not on the spec-v.

Jrock88 - the mazdaspeed does have an aftermarket lsd in it.