Jean Todt's BFC FXX

[bvia]

Originally Posted by mikemechanic

Yeah RTB is a member on ferrarichat (Rik Byron) I never thought to check the FXX registry. I hope you were not offended by my post though Bill, I was not saying it doesn't exist I just really want to see some pics of the 1:1, I think it would be bitchin to see a bare cf one. I think the person that runs the FXX and Enzo registry is on ferrarichat, I think I might have to see if somebody is able to get a pic for me.

Mike.

Not offended at all Mike, and I hope my post didn't make it seem so. I just posted the info I had (which is VERY little) and I and Paul(SLK) would love to have some reference material on that specific car. I'd be willing to bet that as soon as both of our models are finished, they'll be an 8 page spread in some magazine where we'll be able to see just where we and the Maranello boys differed in our builds...;-)>

If you can get us a pic you'd be THE MAN...;-)>

Bill

[mikemechanic]

Originally Posted by bvia

Not offended at all Mike, and I hope my post didn't make it seem so. I just posted the info I had (which is VERY little) and I and Paul(SLK) would love to have some reference material on that specific car. I'd be willing to bet that as soon as both of our models are finished, they'll be an 8 page spread in some magazine where we'll be able to see just where we and the Maranello boys differed in our builds...;-)>

If you can get us a pic you'd be THE MAN...;-)>

Bill

Thats cool Bill. I wasn't offended either, just reread my post and thought it could be taken the wrong way.
Anyways I did some research today. The FXX registry thread has some interesting reading. If you go here http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85825&page=24 go to post #471 RTB (Rik) talks about JT's FXX. Kind of what I can make out is that it may have been a test mule at one time driven by JT and then painted and made to be another car, possibly MS's car. There is also a post here http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpos...0&postcount=25 that states he has a picture of the bare cf car but cannot post it. He is a pretty well respected guy on the forum so I don't doubt what he says. There is also a spread sheet in the FXX registry thread that has all the numbers (VIN and assembly) and there possible whereabouts. Sorry I cannot dig up a picture for you but these threads do shed some light on a few things.
I can't wait to see you work your magic on this one, your Enzo was awesome.
Mike.

[tonioseven]

What's the big mystery about this particular car?! I just really want to know...

[mikemechanic]

Originally Posted by tonioseven

What's the big mystery about this particular car?! I just really want to know...

That's what I would like to know. That's why I asked if Bill had a picture. I've been perusing ferrarichat for about 6 months now and there still hasn't been a definitive answer.

Mike.

[bvia]

Originally Posted by mikemechanic

Thats cool Bill. I wasn't offended either, just reread my post and thought it could be taken the wrong way.
Anyways I did some research today. The FXX registry thread has some interesting reading. If you go here http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85825&page=24 go to post #471 RTB (Rik) talks about JT's FXX. Kind of what I can make out is that it may have been a test mule at one time driven by JT and then painted and made to be another car, possibly MS's car. There is also a post here http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpos...0&postcount=25 that states he has a picture of the bare cf car but cannot post it. He is a pretty well respected guy on the forum so I don't doubt what he says. There is also a spread sheet in the FXX registry thread that has all the numbers (VIN and assembly) and there possible whereabouts. Sorry I cannot dig up a picture for you but these threads do shed some light on a few things.
I can't wait to see you work your magic on this one, your Enzo was awesome.
Mike.

Mike, thanks for the link. That would explain why JT's and MS's VINs are identical on the FXX registry...and since Ryan's post confirms that there are only 30 FXX's "I am reliably informed that there are 30 FXXs.........." then we could suppose that possibly JT's was (as others at that chat site propose) rebodied and given to Schumi. A;so an earlier post between Ryan and Tad seem to state that possibly JT's, rather than being bare CF, was actually black and that maybe, kinda, sorta, the FXX model specific parts were in matt BCF. I'll have to join the site and beg Tad to send me the image he says he has (but can;t post to that site). Thanks again for the info, I just wish the light it shed was a bit more focused...;-)>

Bill

[bvia]

Originally Posted by tonioseven

What's the big mystery about this particular car?! I just really want to know...

Well the reason behind the mystery is that it was a test mule car and because of that, Ferrari kept it a secret (as most car companies do). Also the total number of FXX's is said to be 30. With all 30 accounted for, JT's would make 31...Welcome to the frustrating world of scale racecar building, where knowing what it really looks like is half the battle...;-)>

Bill

[Decs0105]

The mystery of the bare CF FXX
If this turns out as good as your enzo it will be a pleasure to follow the progress thread opcorn:

[slk320]

Hey Bill, check this out:



Supposedly Shumi's car after it changed hands from JT. See partially black and partically CF Thats the only photo I have.

[slk320]

As you can see the CF is high gloss not a matt CF.

[bvia]

...and the mystery deepens. Thanks Paul and this is almost perfect in that it shows that however we end up building the car, we've both got a chance to be right!...;-)>

The effect COULD be simply a reflection of the ceiling (combined with the low-rez image and associated pixilation/moire effect) rather than that of a CF weave in the image. See how the perceived pattern continues from the hood, is not displayed on the top of the front splitter section and is again displayed in the bottom portion, left side, of the splitter?

Of more interest to me is that there appears to be no rear wing end plates (the flat portions that hold up the outer edges of the rear wings and attach over the rear fenders)!

Truly an image that brings up more questions that it answers...;-)>

Thanks again for the image!

Bill

[slk320]

Yeah I thought about the pixalation effect too, but it seems odd that that very same effect sharly ends at the hood line and the front bumper is solidly black...and also has light reflections that are solidly black. You are right about the rear winglets though... strange.

[OrangeR]

What a small photo you are watching...
Maybe this will help



By the way if you want to see this in, let's call it really big size, go here and click "get original uploaded picture" you can find others from the same day also. I think that rain and dust played with our heads no? look for the one where it's loaded to a plataform, the windshield.
http://public.fotki.com/OrangeR/refe...x/fxx57oj.html

What do you think?
P.D. this is not considered a thread hijack right?

[bhop73]

Weird.. when you zoom in on the 'original' photo, it doesn't look like carbon fiber anymore, it looks like big flake metallic paint. The carbon pattern looks like a reflection of the ceiling. I just looked at the other pics, it just looks like black paint to me. especially this http://public.fotki.com/OrangeR/refe...3t1525283.html

but it's still awesome..

edit: "doh" you guys already said that it's just black..

[Jamme]

Hello to everybody,
The color of the Michael car is Nero Daytona Met.
So this explains the flakes.
There is no carbon on the body.
Saw the car in December at Fiorano......but was not allowed to thake pictures.
Now it is possible that this car is Tod's old car....
Jamme

[bvia]

Thanks Rodrigo and everyone else!!!!!

So now we know that the above image is of MS's metallic black car and we can plainly see the wing endplates as well as the vents on the ceiling reflected on the body which "looks" like a CF weave....which means that we still have no clue as to what JT's enzo actually looks/looked like...;-)>

Bill

p.s. I don't consider this a thread-jack in the least and appreciate everyone's posts!!!!