impreza sti

[sickcallawayc12]

oh that sucks. well the link basically says a 17 year old was speeding in a 04 WRX and drove into a pole splitting the car in half. the 17 yr old driver was ejected and killed (no seat belt on) and passenger died also. if you search online you'll see other stories out there showing an STI and a 17 year old don't mix well.

[Right_LiRrr]

there's a BIG difference between a WRX STi and and a WRX...

[freakray]

Originally Posted by sickcallawayc12

oh that sucks. well the link basically says a 17 year old was speeding in a 04 WRX and drove into a pole splitting the car in half. the 17 yr old driver was ejected and killed (no seat belt on) and passenger died also. if you search online you'll see other stories out there showing an STI and a 17 year old don't mix well.

Let's help you out here. It doesn't matter WHAT car you're driving, if your 17 and speeding and cause an accident or kill yourself, you've proven that the insurance companies are right and that you're a liability.

The big problem is the kids that get in an AWD car and think they're invincible. Watch the WRC and you'll see that AWD even in the hands of the best drivers is not the answer to all situations.

[korybobsimpreza95]

man, my first car was a 95 impreza L when i was 16, thats right 1.8l fwd base as they come, 110 hp. nothing more prolly less..i still think if i would have had my old integra gs-r or even my 2.5rs when i was 16, i wouldnt be posting this thread right now...my insurance was gonna be like 355 monthly on a wrx and my insurance on my 2.5rs is like a little over 200...and ive had tickets, cause i was a ricer with a weld-on muffler and intake back in the day and thought i had a race car...dont worry about reliability if its a subaru its not gonna break...and if you do wreck it...hard...its gonna hold up alot better than say a honda/acura or celica, just w/e you get learn your car, but away from where you could hurt other people trying to learn it...

[jg09]

Originally Posted by excess01

hey guys do you think an impreza is a good car for a 16 year old and what are the cons and pros of it i know insurance will be expensive any help will be appreciated

I don't have time to read all the posts, so I could be repeating something, but here goes:

for a first car, no. learn to drive, then buy it. But coming from someone who just turned 17 and does actually own an STi, it is really easy to be irresponsible with the STi. I'll admit, I haven't been a law abiding citizen in mine, but that's another story in itself. The STi is a great car if you learn to respect it for what it is. IT IS NOT A STREET RACER. IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A STREET RACER. It is a RALLY car. If you're going to race it, race it on the track/dirt, but don't put street glow or a body kit on it. The stock spoiler is big enough, don't get something bigger.

But that's just my

[lamehonda]

Originally Posted by freakray

WRX's are reliable, do some searching.

Did you consider getting the wagon? The insurance is significantly cheaper on it.

Did you get quotes on this when you bought yours? My car was $150 a half more than the TR when I bought mine. I figured that the back end would be alot more expensive to fix if the wagon was rear ended. I don't know, maybe I need a new insurance company.

[freakray]

Originally Posted by lamehonda

Did you get quotes on this when you bought yours? My car was $150 a half more than the TR when I bought mine. I figured that the back end would be alot more expensive to fix if the wagon was rear ended. I don't know, maybe I need a new insurance company.

Yes I got quotes.

How do you figure a wagon costs more to fix - and if you're rear-ended, why do you care what it costs? The other person will be paying to repair it.

[mr_tw]

i assume he means if it costs more to fix then they would charge more for insurance due to the higher repair rates, and u could back into someone in a parking lot

[2turboimports]

Originally Posted by freakray

Yes I got quotes.

How do you figure a wagon costs more to fix - and if you're rear-ended, why do you care what it costs? The other person will be paying to repair it.

Unless you live in Florida. Then you have a 1 in 4 chance that the person rear ending you doesn't have insurance. Ahhhh, gotta love this great state....not

[SabreKhan]

Even if it did cost more to fix, it doesn't matter. Insurance rates are based on the cost to fix a given car on average, and since fewer people with wagons ram them into things at high speed than do people with sedans, the average cost is lower for a wagon. Therefore, the average insurance rate is lower on a wagon. If nobody ever crashed a Koenigsegg (and nobody ever stole them), the insurance rates would be low. Just for the record, they aren't low.

[lamehonda]

Originally Posted by freakray

Yes I got quotes.

How do you figure a wagon costs more to fix - and if you're rear-ended, why do you care what it costs? The other person will be paying to repair it.

Insurance companies factor in the cost of fixing a car in all kinds of accidents not just the ones that will be caused by the policy holder. They do this because they may insure the car that is ramming your ass at 20 mph and they want to make sure you pay a little bit for the extra repair costs. Insurance isn't a science, it's highway robbery and it discriminates against men on a ridiculous level.

There are alot of parts that are likely to be damaged in a low speed crash that would otherwise have been ok on a sedan. Rear window, rear wiper, defroster, pumps for liftgate. This is one of the reasons that SUVs are notoriously expensive to fix after low speed impacts to the rear.

Originally Posted by SabreKhan

and since fewer people with wagons ram them into things at high speed than do people with sedans, the average cost is lower for a wagon.

I wonder why my company (USAA) wants so much more for my car than a TR then?

[SabreKhan]

USAA must have estimated that they would spend more on average for your car than for the TR. Probably because the total MSRP of your car is higher than that of the TR, and all other things are pretty much equal (number crashed, number stolen, seat belts, ABS, four doors, etc.). That back window is not as much of a deal-breaker as you might think, because a rear-end collision is usually paid by the other party (even when the other party doesn't have insurance, your insurance company hauls them into court).

USAA has a good reputation in the insurance business, but when I called around for quotes both in Texas and here in Alabama, they were the highest price of anyone except the "we'll insure anybody" local companies. State Farm was about 30% less than their next-lowest competitor (Progressive), and my SF agent is awesome. I've heard so many great things about USAA, though, that I think I must have some factor (YWM-ness?) that they despise.

[jmccrzy]

I am 23 years old and I pretty much agree with everyone else about a 16 year old getting an STI at that age... INSURANCE is OUTRAGEOUS at that age.. I am currently looking to buy an STI or S2000 (deciding bw pro's and con's). I starting off driving fwd cars and firmly believe that kids need to learn how to drive before getting into the these rockets.. go get a gti, civic si, or even a scion tc and do whatever you want with it (learn from stock)... but learn how to drive before you go out and race some vette doing 150 and good god knows what happens next... yes those cars i mentioned can become racers but not keeping up with regular vettes out of the box... learn how to walk before you run!!! Statistics show!

[jg09]

I fully agree, when I drive my STi, it's just too tempting to drive irresponsibly. That's why I limit myself to driving it only once and a while. Most of the time, I'm driving my 'Yota Camry Wagon. Plus insurance rates SUCK to pay on the STi!

Also, S2k vs. STi? No comparison. AWD conquers. Plus, when you're older and you have a family, you'll thank yourself for buying a 4 dr. car.

[SabreKhan]

Amen to that. I don't even have kids, and I'm already glad I bought a four-door. If I have any stuff whatsoever that I have to transport, and my wife wants to come, too, then the drop-top wouldn't cut it. Briefcase + wife + convertible = no good. (think giant lawyer briefcase... like with actual briefs in it, not businessman briefcase with cell phone and five contracts in it)