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Old 09-04-2001, 10:19 PM
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Actually - Are You Doing one yellow/one red?
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Old 09-04-2001, 10:27 PM
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Yeah

I already had the Yellow Top (bought it new last April for a whopping $95 shipped), so I picked up a Red Top for starting purposes. I have a lot of lights (~1000 watts), plus a QuickAir2 compressor underhood, and I hope to add a winch soon, so the Yellow Top is for them, the Red is for starting and the main truck electrical.
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Old 09-04-2001, 10:39 PM
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The lifts add travel because the upper a-arm is offset from the hinge point (where it bolts to the frame), so it can allow for more wheel travel (and a steeper lower control arm angle) before the upper a-arm hits the upper bumpstop.
Hey goth definatley not taken the wrong way! I do however respectfully still disagree. The only reason why the different angles on the a-arm is for alignment purposes. I do have the AC arms and have been using them for quite a while. While I understand that we both have different vehicles the purpose is the same. The only way to actually gain travel with this type of "lift" would be if the arm itself was longer, but then again it would all need to be extended, lower arm, axle, yadda yadda.

I did a little experiment when I put my lift on. I disconnected the shock and swaybar. Then I took a measuring tape to the top of the fender to the ground running by the center of the hub. Then as closely as I could measure the travel of each a-arm. Both came up with aprox 7.125 inches of travel. Again the limiting factor was the bumpstops. That is why I believe the angle of the arm is nothing more than to correct alignment and ball joint angles. Regardless of what each company says they achieve this is what I achieved in my own little experiment. Could it be flawed, I suppose, and if so please point it out, cuz tommorrow I need to reindex my t-bars AGAIN!! So maybe if you could come up with something different than I could try it again tommorrow!
So if you have any ideas shoot em my way!
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Old 09-04-2001, 10:43 PM
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I did a little experiment when I put my lift on. I disconnected the shock and swaybar. Then I took a measuring tape to the top of the fender. Then as closely as I could measure the travel of each a-arm. Both came up with aprox 7.125 inches of travel.
That's funny, cause I did *almost* the same thing on my truck. I disconnected both shocks (swaybar was disco'd already) and compared the droop on both sides after one side had the AC a-arm in and the other side was still stock...the side w/ the AC upper a-arm installed drooped a good 2.5" more (hence the travel numbers I came up with...) Both the upper a-arms were resting on the (squished) upper bumpstop, but there was visibly more distance to the lower bumpstop from the side w/ the AC a-arm. <shrug>

I think we agree to disagree.
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Old 09-04-2001, 10:47 PM
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I think we agree to disagree.
Ditto! That's pretty funny we both did the same thing! Oh I forgot to mention that my swabar was chucked a long time ago so I forgot to mention that. BUT it doesn't matter anyhow!
Since our vehicles are different maybe we are both right!
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Old 09-04-2001, 10:49 PM
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We have about 7" for one disco'd, and 9.5" disco'd for the other....one of you is either measuring too optimistically, or too conservatively?

I mean, if I have to choose between 7" and 9.5" for myself, I'd go with the 9.5" given a choice...not just for the truck either....

Maybe the 7" needs one of those enlargement thingies? A bumpstop ectomy? Measuring from different travel reference points?


OOOoops! You have different trucks! I forgot that! One truck is longer travel than the other by nature...


Maybe I'll find a free live axle with an ARB in it laying around somewhere?


(And then we can work up that coil over shock set up....)
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Old 09-04-2001, 10:55 PM
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Hey Lance I'll tell you what if I can get 9.5" that would be sweet. That is a HUGE difference.
Goth now has a total of 19" compared to my 14"+ total travel maxed out!
I tell you what if you find a 76-77 Bronce D44 laying around you better find one for me also
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Old 09-04-2001, 11:15 PM
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I went out side, and do you believe it? I saw Not ONE, Not TWO, But ZERO Bronco axles just sitting there at the curb!

I'll look again tomorrow....
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Old 09-04-2001, 11:16 PM
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I went out side, and do you believe it? I saw Not ONE, Not TWO, But ZERO Bronco front D44 axles just sitting there at the curb!

I'll look again tomorrow....


I mean, there's those damn rear D44's laying all over....but no fronts....

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