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Old 09-24-2002, 11:15 AM
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So then, somewhat back to the original topic... is there any benefit to a FF drift.

We know that in racing small amounts of well executed drift are important for keeping speeds up through the corners. However, that mostly applies to RWD and AWD cars. Is it the same for a FWD?

I honestly have no idea about this one. Whenever I raced my FF cars I always used the method of slow-in/fast-out grip driving. Loss of traction always just scrubbed off speed, and gave no real benefit. However, I never tried to purposefully add some drift to the turns. Personally I don't think it would be beneficial, but I don't know.
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I always thought the best way to use an FF car was to try to carry as much speed into the corner as possible, using braking to transfer weight to prevent understeer... this sort of results in 4 wheel drift sometimes accompanied by the tail end wanting to kick out a bit...

Either that or I'm sniffing a very potent brand of glue..
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In theory it would make sense.... but in practice your rear suspension would have to be hard as a brick and your front would have to be a sponge for that to really work. Even with the weight transfer from hard braking, a FF will always want to understeer.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone drift a FF car in racing.
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Yeah, don't think I've ever seen it either. FF cars are not made for drifting! However, with the stiffened rear suspension, throttle off oversteer becomes quite possible...
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What kind of mods would stiffen up the rear suspension? i'm not sure uhh shocks or what?
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That would depend on the suspension type of the car. Shocks and struts are usually left to fine tune the suspension, with coil springs, torsion bars, or leaf springs(shudder, ugh) providing the spring rate to the ground.

For most high performance cars, you would just add stiffer springs, and then fine tune your results with a shock...

Sway bars and good tires are a must as well.
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There is no point, buy an FR.

All "ass dragging" does is wear out your tires...really quick.
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lol...
a$$ dragging...
I agree...
I'm planning to be buying a new RSX Type S in the spring and I don't plan on drifting it at the track.

All drift cars are built with RWD. FWD just doesn't work.
You can call it all you want e-brake drift, etc. but it isn't just a real drift.
It's just a$$ dragging.
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