assault rifle or shotgun?

[whttrshpunk]

Originally Posted by 2.2 Straight Six

personally, i can't see much point in buying something without have a reason for it. it seems to me he wants a gun just to have one. i can't see much point in spending so much money on something just to have it.

Would that statement apply to other pointless things, such as say, the internet or a home computer used to browse discussion forums on said internet?

[2.2 Straight six]

Originally Posted by whttrshpunk

Would that statement apply to other pointless things, such as say, the internet or a home computer used to browse discussion forums on said internet?

so you don't use the internet for anything useful?

i've done a lot of reading from the net, learned a lot of what i know about cars from it. i wouldn't call that pointless at all.

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[Broke_as_****]

Originally Posted by 2.2 Straight six

i've done a lot of reading from the net, learned a lot of what i know about cars from it. i wouldn't call that pointless at all.

I don't see how you call posting in this thread useful. Regardless, unless you're a monk who never spends a cent on entertainment then I'm sure you've got you're own long list of "pointless purchases".

[XeVeNskyLiNE]

I'm gun retarded, but IMO I'd rahter have the Rutger, seems like it'd be nicer to have, more shots, faster.

[pre98zetec]

11-87, I own one.. What a gun! Easily one of the best shotguns i've ever owned/fired.

[drewh4386]

ruger sounds nice

[Damien]

Remingtons are fun. My grandfather has one, but I'd go with the Ruger. Not sure, but it seems a lot more fun. Besides, target practice with a Ruger sounds exciting.

[whttrshpunk]

Go with the Ruger, btw. If you get bored target shooting, you can try to shoot clays with it.

OT: Useful =\= Necessary

[Steel]

And guns are useful when ya want to go hunting! I haven't had any venison this year yet and im really looking forward to it.

[Gohan Ryu]

Go with the Mini-14. To me it's more challenging and satifsying to hit a target with a single bullet than with hundreds of buckshot. Firing a rifle accurately requires discipline and technique - it's so freaking cool to be able to put a bullet into a 1" bullseye at 75 yards. It makes you feel...deadly.

And in case you get too frustrated if you can't hit your target...a Mini-14 can be converted to full auto with an (illegal) conversion kit.

Funny how the people here who aren't into guns call this a waste of money and penis extension and all that crap...to me it's a just fun hobby just like cars.

[Rally Sport]

shotgun.. its way better for 'home defence' if the need arises.. nothing like standing in the middle of the night and having the crook hear the cocking of the shotty.

[Steel]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

Go with the Mini-14. To me it's more challenging and satifsying to hit a target with a single bullet than with hundreds of buckshot. Firing a rifle accurately requires discipline and technique - it's so freaking cool to be able to put a bullet into a 1" bullseye at 75 yards. It makes you feel...deadly.

And in case you get too frustrated if you can't hit your target...a Mini-14 can be converted to full auto with an (illegal) conversion kit.

Funny how the people here who aren't into guns call this a waste of money and penis extension and all that crap...to me it's a just fun hobby just like cars.

Hundreds? More like 7. And if you think wielding a scattergun doesn't require discipline and technique, go hunting with one sometime. Not easy to get close to deer. Or shoot clay pidgeons out of the air. And 75 yards is a joke. My buddies dad shoots 1000 yards with ironsights. I have a hard time past 200 without a scope.

I'd say, screw the mini-14. If you're going to spend the money, might as well get a full blown M1A .30 calibre and all.

Im saving my money for one of these baddies

[MagicRat]

Amazingly enough, I have used both the Ruger and a variety of shotguns extensively.

Consider a 12 ga. pump action, it's versatile and cheaper than a semi, (at least it was the last time I looked. )
If you are serious about hunting birds or shooting clays, a side by side (double barrel with different chokes, ie modified on one side and full on the other) is best, but such a gun is specialized and not the best for home defence or deer, etc.

12 ga pumps are cheap, much cheaper than a new Ruger. Both Remington and Winchester make good inexpensive ones.

The Ruger is fine for hunting or targets but is not quite as accurate as a good bolt action hunting rifle. However, unloading a clip at the deer running away from you substitutes nicely for fine accuracy.

IMO get both. Get the Ruger first, it will be more fun. If money is really tight, get a shotgun first, at least you can begin to enjoy it until you save for a Ruger.

BTW I've also used an M1, (jungle carbine) as shown above. The rounds are kind of expensive. They hit hard but many rounds are the 'full metal jacket' military surplus type. These whistle right through a deer without deforming, so unless you get a good head or chest shot, the deer just runs off just to expire later out of one's view.
A good example is wickedly accurate though.

[2.2 Straight six]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

Funny how the people here who aren't into guns call this a waste of money and penis extension and all that crap...to me it's a just fun hobby just like cars.

want to know why i said it?

he's chosen two very different guns to compare.

unless you're going out to kill people on the street they don't share much in common in terms of useage. shotguns aren't the thing for long-range shooting and rifles aren't the thing for skeet (clay pidgeon) shooting.

if you were into target shooting specifically then you'd compare two rifles. similarly if skeet shooting was more your thing you'd probably compare two shotguns.

it's like comparing a motorbike with a car. apples and oranges.