T28 w/ tub. manifold vs. hahn super 16G

[airFS]

Even with a front mount a turbo back exhaust and a tubeular manifold??

[gthompson97]

Yes, even with those mods. The only mods that are really meaning anything is the exhaust. At 14 psi on a t28, the turbo isn't really flowing enough air to need a front mount so you'd be fine with the smic, and IMO, the tubular manifold only really counts power wise when you're pushing some pretty serious numbers and you need ALL the flow you can get.

[Thor06]

I doubt it. More turbo on higher boost. If my calculations are right, 14b's flow ~25lbs/min maxed out and small 16g's flow ~31lbs/min maxed out. You are somewhere between those on a t28 and I just read like yesterday the new Evo IX turbos max out at like 42 lbs/min. Theres a significant airflow difference there. A stock evo is rated at what 286 hp? You'd have quite a bit to do to get that far with a T28.

[airFS]

What about the hahn super 16G kit? I think it comes with an adjusable internal wastegate (15-17psi), What fuel mods would I need to do because that's reason I choose the T28 in the first place. I dont want to get all those mods done then screw up my engine because I hit a wrong button on the afc. Could I just buy a new fuel pump and injectors??

[gthompson97]

New fuel pump, injectors, FPR, and a tuning device. You can't just throw a pump and injectors on without having no way of controlling them.

[Thor06]

Speed costs money man. If you want to mess up an Evo, I think the cheapest way would be to get an Evo III 16g, a Walbro 255, aftermarket FPR, 650's, and an AFC/logger, then up the boost quite a bit. However, AFC/logger combos are far inferior to DSMlink, I would suggest that over a AFC any day.

[airFS]

How about this w/ the Hahn super 16G @ 17psi + FMIC:
http://www.extremepsi.com/store/cust...1&veh=2G%20DSM

and:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=140048479873

[airFS]

The total setup should cost somewhere around $2300 which is good because I dont really want to go over $2500

[gthompson97]

You could go on forever deciding on which combination to get. You need to decide what your plans are for the car and either you're going to fork out some cash or you're not going to and in return have a shitty setup.

[eclipsed at 3am]

i thought that afc wont work with 680cc or something like that.

[gthompson97]

I think they'll work with 650s but that's the highest you can go.

[airFS]

What are the differences between an maf translator and a safcII?? Wich would be easier to use?

[eclipsed at 3am]

an afc allows you to control the air/fuel ratio after you get into upgraded turbos, fuel, etc. a maf translator is used with a gm maf. you install a gm maf into the uicp(after the turbo and intercooler) and it reads the incoming air better than stock. plus you have the option to vent your bov to atmosphere. usually something like this would require dsmlink, but the translator just allows a gm part(maf) to be recognized by the mitsubishi. if the upgrades are not too major, such as a bazillion-trim turbo, you could tune the afc with these new air levels with your fuel. when you have a bigger turbo, a lot more upgrades, whatever, the afc can only control so much. thats when its time to switch to dsmlink.

[NateS]

The afc will work with 650cc injectors(I am running this setup) but, I would not suggest going with any bigger injectors on the afc. I have heard many times that 650cc injectors are the max for the afc.

[airFS]

I think I'm going to stick with the safc because it would actually be more expensive to get the maf and plus I could care less it my bov was vented to the atmosphere.