Non-turbo turboed track time

[gthompson97]

Nope, GS comes with the 420a too.

It's a Chrysler Motor used in a number of different cars. Some 95-99 Dodge Avengers, some Neon's, 95-99 Eclipse RS & GS, & Talon ESI.

The 4g63 came in all 1g cars that didn't have the 1.8. Some were turbo'd and some weren't, the only differences being a few of the internals. The 90- mid 92's were 6-bolt platforms and the mid 92- 94 were 7-bolt platforms. They also come in the 95-99 Eclipse GST & GSX and the 95-98 Talon TSI & TSI AWD.

There, a history of the DSM. So either your buddy wasted alot of money by swapping in a 4g63 into a n/t 420a, or he bought it like it is, dropped in a 6-bolt and is filling you full of bullshit.

[eclipsed at 3am]

i am SO over this thread

[gthompson97]

...Huh?

I'm not starting shit by any means, so I apologize if it sounds like that. I'm just saying that either your buddy doesn't know what he's talking about or someones not telling the truth? I don't know.

[l_eclipse_l]

I'm confused as to what motor was in the fuckin car to begin with...but I now understand that there is a 6 bolt 4g63 sitting in a RS with a 60 trim turbo, not a 420a turboed like I had first though.

[Thor06]

I am soooo tempted to lock this poor excuse for a thread....

I have a buddy that is running a 420a neon. That shit is bananas. On his 14b he was fucking up stock and slighly modded SRTs, on the t3/t4 50 trim hes running in there now is fast as hell. No track times yet, but he fucked up a 300 whp WRX on the highway by bus lengths. Once he gets his megasquirt working right he should be pretty deep into the 11's. That bitch is gutted to hell and built to the teeth, I wouldnt want to race it.

[eclipsed at 3am]

hes a guy from the local car spot, so i only see him once or twice a week. all i know is he was telling me its a 98, and was originally naturally aspirated. then he says its a 6bolt swap, and now its turbod. i never asked, therefore he never mentioned anything, if it was a 420a or 4g63, or whether the 4g63 was turbo or not originally. hey man im sorry bro i dont mean to freak out or anything..kinda beena rough weekend and i keep hearing that damn "head-on" commercial where that stupid chick keeps repeating the same thing.

[eclipsed at 3am]

Originally Posted by Thor06

I am soooo tempted to lock this poor excuse for a thread....

I have a buddy that is running a 420a neon. That shit is bananas. On his 14b he was fucking up stock and slighly modded SRTs, on the t3/t4 50 trim hes running in there now is fast as hell. No track times yet, but he fucked up a 300 whp WRX on the highway by bus lengths. Once he gets his megasquirt working right he should be pretty deep into the 11's. That bitch is gutted to hell and built to the teeth, I wouldnt want to race it.

hey thor what state is this in?

[gthompson97]

Originally Posted by l_eclipse_l

I'm confused as to what motor was in the fuckin car to begin with...but I now understand that there is a 6 bolt 4g63 sitting in a RS with a 60 trim turbo, not a 420a turboed like I had first though.

I'm confused as to what car he had to being with. Now we dont' know if it's an RS/GS or a turbo.

And Thor, there's really no excuse to lock the thread. There's some misunderstandings and what not, but no flame wars or anything like that. Don't bet getting all lock happy with them new powers ya got there.

[Thor06]

The neon is in MN. Also, I am willing to get your buddy is full of shit, I cannot imagine anyone actually going through with a 6 bolt 4g63 into an RS/GS. How many bolts hold the flywheel on in a 420a anyway? Maybe hes confused. If he did though, tell him we need a write up.

Originally Posted by gthompson97

And Thor, there's really no excuse to lock the thread. There's some misunderstandings and what not, but no flame wars or anything like that. Don't bet getting all lock happy with them new powers ya got there.

Just because I want to lock it doesnt mean I can. I make a concerted effort to not abuse my mod powers and locking this thread would absolutely be abuse. I just came off a long weekend with not much sleep and roughly 8 hours of some competitive ultimate frisbee. I am soo tired and unfocused right now and reading those first few posts made my head spin. Threatening to lock was a mere joke.

[nates6969]

Ya to answer the ones guys question, 100 random posts ago, im running a 4g63nt bottom end with 9:1. Im thinking about dropping some 2g pistons in tho. I read a thread the other day with a guy daily driving on 18psi on nt pistons. and some other guy running 20-22 on a fully stock 4g63nt bottom end. how this is possible, i dont know. Im aiming for mid 13s by spring at 15psi! right now my mph are around 98 at 9psi so I think its possible. I think Im going to run the nt pistons until they melt!! then build a turbo motor ready to swap in. I want to see what these pistons can do

[gthompson97]

The stock 4g63 bottom end can handle 500+ hp on pretty much any given day, so 20-22 psi isn't really anything, and it all depends on the turbo, mods, and all that good stuff. And the 2g pistons would be a very good upgrade for you, as long as you put in some 6-bolt big rods.

Dustin I think you need a nice tall glass of some good cold beer to get rid of all that stress. Maybe if we were in a really good mood, we'd send you a stripper. Of course, Brian would pay for everything.

[nates6969]

wait im talking about the non turbo bottom end at 20-22psi. are you talking about the turbo bottom end holding 500+ horsepower????

[gthompson97]

Yes, but they're basically the same motor except for a few minor internal differences. And 22psi is different for every turbo. You could run 22 psi on a t25 and not be anywhere close to 22psi on a 16g. I agree, it's a pretty big number for a NT, but it's not like he's trying to pack 30 psi in there with a 50 trim on stock NT internals. He can run it that way for awhile, but it's not going to last thaaat long.

[nates6969]

hey do you think a hks 264 intake and 272 exhaust cam would be too much for nt internals running upwards of 15psi?

[gthompson97]

No, that's a pretty common street cam for the 4g63t, but I don't know how it would react with your NT. I'm sure it would still be an upgrade though.