September 11th....one year on

[Ssom]

Originally posted by JD@af
I hate to sound holier than thou, and maybe I don't even have a right to speak out about this.. but honestly, to those of you who have posted that you basically in one way or another "don't care" ...I'm ashamed to share this board space with you

Well, I'm sorry, but this is all too far away for me to worry, most terrorists can't even locate NZ, why should I worry????


Sure it sucks that people died, bt like said in the flick, Deep Impact, the buildings will be rebuilt, the heroes will be remembered (Though I think the firefighters/Police were hero's, the rest were Victims)

Generally meaning that wemust move on, not let the terrorists think they changed out lives

[Moppie]

Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi


Well, I'm sorry, but this is all too far away for me to worry, most terrorists can't even locate NZ, why should I worry????

.......
Generally meaning that wemust move on, not let the terrorists think they changed out lives

Trying thinking like this:

What if your brother is killed by a terrorist attack in Italy? or if he was in London and the plan to fly a plan into downing street had succeded.
My brother was working on Downing street, and chances are he would have been caught up in it if they had succeded. The attack wasn't just aimed at the US, it was aimed at the entier western world.


Then think about what happens if on this sept 11 they make another attack on another international landmark, and as a result the US, the UK, and all the other allies launch a full scale war on places like Iraq and Pakistan. We happen to be one of those allies, and any war against terrorism would turn into a religious war between muslims and christians, and you would be one of the first ppl to be conscripted and shipped off to somewhere in Asia to fight.

Don't think that will ever happen?
Well prehaps you should ask your father about this small war called Vietnam, or your Grand Father about this other small war called WWII.
Both occured within the last 60 years, and both were started by mis guided fools in places of power. And New Zealanders were conscripted to fight and die in both.


You can deny the full impact of what happened as much as you like, but it will never change it.

[Jimster]

Originally posted by Moppie


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What if your brother is killed by a terrorist attack in Italy? or if he was in London and the plan to fly a plan into downing street had succeded.
My brother was working on Downing street, and chances are he would have been caught up in it if they had succeded. The attack wasn't just aimed at the US, it was aimed at the entier western world.

I'm scared

[DonCorleone]

Originally posted by JD@af
I hate to sound holier than thou, and maybe I don't even have a right to speak out about this.. but honestly, to those of you who have posted that you basically in one way or another "don't care" ...I'm ashamed to share this board space with you

Try to think about how acts of terrorism by an international organization affect the freedoms taken for granted of every free citizen in the world, whether you comprise a "target" portion of the world's population or not. Maybe I should be jealous that in this capacity I can't claim that ignorance is bliss. But no, I know that ignorance is just ignorance

I agree 100% you took the words right outta my mouth
I'm from Brooklyn, and I have lots of family that lives in the city, my cousin works in Manhattan and i was scared for them on that day last year.

[Damien]

Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi
Nothing, I am over it

I'm totally with Moss here, again. I never thought about like the day after it happened. We've had bombings before and no one seems to care to remember. There seems to be the thought of Patrio Day and if I get out of school, then I'll remember anyway possible!

[DonCorleone]

Originally posted by Damien

We've had bombings before and no one seems to care to remember.

Actually I think that was the first big attack on US mainland, the only other thing i can think of is Pearl Harbor, an the Twin Towers was alot worse IMO

When were the bombings before??

[Damien]

Originally posted by DonCorleone


Actually I think that was the first big attack on US mainland, the only other thing i can think of is Pearl Harbor, an the Twin Towers was alot worse IMO

When were the bombings before??

My point proven.

September 11, and I hate it when people call it 9-1-1, was nothing but a terrorist attack. I agree it was a terrible loss and I hate what happened. But the Oklahoma city bombing was also a terroist attack. There also have been majorly known serial killers that have done more than tornados have! Columbine of course has and will be remembered. Most of the other schools though haven't and how are the students that attack the school any differesnt than Osama Bin Laden. They wasnt to cause terror and what was the outcome? Everybody now....TERROR!

Also, Americans, did you know we fired first in the Pearl Harbor attack.

[ci5ic]

Seriously folks. This whole situation is a powder keg waiting to go off, and if you think you're "too far away" to really care, you're sorely mistaken. Like Moppie said, you're still involved, even though you yourself was not a target of the attack. The attack of Sept. 11th is only a symptom of a much greater problem.

I'm pretty far away from it, but it still affected me deeply... Which sucks, because that was their goal, to strike fear in our hearts, and I'm sad to say that they succeeded. But when you stop and think about it, this isn't just an isolated incident. It's not the first time, and it's not the last time. I think most Americans feel helpless because of the nature of the enemy. The way they operate is difficult to detect. For all we know, our neighbors could be part of a "sleeper cell" or could be operating a business that's funneling money to the terrorist cause. And it's this uncertainty that plagues us.

[DonCorleone]

Originally posted by Damien


My point proven.

September 11, and I hate it when people call it 9-1-1, was nothing but a terrorist attack. I agree it was a terrible loss and I hate what happened. But the Oklahoma city bombing was also a terroist attack. There also have been majorly known serial killers that have done more than tornados have! Columbine of course has and will be remembered. Most of the other schools though haven't and how are the students that attack the school any differesnt than Osama Bin Laden. They wasnt to cause terror and what was the outcome? Everybody now....TERROR!

Also, Americans, did you know we fired first in the Pearl Harbor attack.

The difference is that over 5000 people died..... that's a very big number
And watching those 2 huge towers fall was a huge ordeal

[Damien]

I'm not sure if it was here or in school I talked about this. First of all, before I get into it, I'm a direct target because I'm less than a mile form the US military's largest air field with more than 70% of our air forces so don't go saying "your involved" and other $hit like that. I'm involoved but I still could care less.

I avoided this thread for so long because it discussed Sept. 11 and I didn't watch T.V. or do anything else with my parents because all they could do was watch the stupid news about it! I went up stairs and watched anything else. Also, does anyone get a list of songs that should not be played for a good amout of time because of how it pertained tp Sept. 11! But to disbelief, I found a statsion that went down that exact list and played every song on there. I called in and said I loved them for it.

But my main point, is terror. Now we can beat the terrorists all we want, but you know what, what'll it do? They've won already due to the Americans weakness in their minds and letting them achieving terror struck into us. "Only you can allow yourself to be insulted" was a quote I found and it's true. If you don't have enough power to stay strong then you're just pathetic.

But wait, you say, "Did you see America? They came together majorly and had all this prayer and other mass meetings!" Sure they did, but if you gave then a gun and said we are sending oyu into war againist the Middle East, how many would go? Also, how long did it take for America to go back the exact same way they were before? Not long was it. The whole inciddent almost was forgotten except on military bases, (I go to enough) but when the anniversary of the attack comes up, everyone grabs their lighters and wave them in the air. Sure, it'll last longer than Veteran's Day, but maybe a month at the most! Who even remembers really when pearl Harbor was attack? That day blows by like just another day. I know I'm not the only one that sees this, but if you don't, then fine.

-DAMiEN

[tazdev]

I will take a few minutes out of my day to remember what happend on the terrible day (even though I am 1/2 a world away) because I have freinds in the States that have been affected.

Will I however sit and watch endless replay of the towers collapsing on CNN? HELL NO!


Lets just hope Osama hasn't organised a 1 year anniversary attack

[ci5ic]

Originally posted by Damien
The whole inciddent almost was forgotten except on military bases, (I go to enough) but when the anniversary of the attack comes up, everyone grabs their lighters and wave them in the air

I think you have a screwy perspective on things...

First of all, I don't think too many people just "forgot about it". That's absurd.

2nd of all, isn't that what you would prefer? You're the one who says you couldn't care a less...

[Damien]

Originally posted by ci5ic
2nd of all, isn't that what you would prefer? You're the one who says you couldn't care a less...

Alright, not exactly forgotten, but just put into the back of your head like Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, and the Pearl Harbor attack.

To sum up everything, The world would be much better off without hypocrites, taking away 70%-90% of America.

[Ssom]

Originally posted by DonCorleone


The difference is that over 5000 people died..... that's a very big number
And watching those 2 huge towers fall was a huge ordeal

Actually it is currently sitting just below 3000, still a lot but, yeah.....

[ci5ic]

All I'm saying is that you act holier than thou by saying that you couldn't care, and urging other people to do the same, and yet, when people continue on with their lives, you bag on them for it? That is what I find hypocritical...

And you're only insulting people by accusing them of equating september 11th to "Veteran's Day, Memorial Day, and the Pearl Harbor attack". There's a world of difference there, even with the Pearl Harbor reference. Sure, it was a terrible event. But most people (including me and you, and probably even your parents) weren't even alive when it happened. Time lessens the significance of the observances... But, considdering I was alive and aware of the 9/11 events, it has a considderably more profound affect on me than something that happened before I was ever concieved.