350z or rx-8

[Gotian]

also you have to remember that the maximas are front wheel and the drive train loss is greater on rear wheel drive.

[98BlackTransAm]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

if your running a 14.5 in a z your not a good or even decent driver. i also dont agree that a si can keep up with a rx8 considering it has 30ish less hp and is heavier.

and a z dont need to be tuned to rival a mustang, it does that stock. itll lose straight line but win on a track.

when considering total performance they are both equal, as stated rearlier they lap about the same time. looks ill give to the z as well as reliability. their interior quality is equally nice(slight edge to the 8). aftermarket id have to give to the z.

my pick, the z.

at the track last week in fayetteville, nc (which is fairly close to sea level) i saw a handful of 350z's all runnin high 14's/low 15's. i think to get into the low 14's stock you've gotta be a pretty experienced driver.

[blakscorpion21]

are they that hard to drive well? whats the deal?

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by blakscorpion21

are they that hard to drive well? whats the deal?

Around a course the 350 tail likes to kick out too much, on a drag it is hard to launch it.

[BurntGauge]

Originally Posted by Gotian

Also don't let the reliability issue fool you, the RX-8 is just as reliable if not more reliable that the 350 with a better warrenty if you get an 06.

The only way the RX8 is more reliable is b/c it REQUIRES you to do MORE maintenance then on the 350Z, b/c if you dont, the engine go boom. 350Z is more reliable b/c you dont have to do maintenance so often.

[Deano85]

Neither, get a wrx and smoke them both.

[PlayStation3]

i hate the way the wrx looks. what excatly do you mean by more maintence what would i have to do different with a rotary then a non rotary

[Deano85]

Um replace the engine when the seal blows. Rotary engines are great for racing but for reliablity they aren't so good. Also they are very small displacement engines but look at their mpg .

[TatII]

Originally Posted by Deano85

Neither, get a wrx and smoke them both.

you honestly think a EJ20 WRX has alot of grunt? anything but a dead stop they're not impressive at all, and they're power seriously falls off after 80mph.

they barely trap over 90mph in the 1/4. they're 14.1 time that you see is from them having to take off at 6000+ rpm. after that holeshot, they run out of steam in 3rd. a 350Z can easily reel it in on the top end.

also the WRX is softly sprung and has small and skinny all season tires, small brakes and crappy aerodynamics, weak glass trannys that breaks very often, and a very very laggy turbo that doesn't make any real power.

the WRX was the shit like 5 years ago when it first came out, but by todays standards, it can barely keep up.

the EJ25 powered WRX is a different beast though, but even with the new engine it still only puts down 210whp stock.

[Deano85]

Ever been to an autocross event?

[PlayStation3]

for futhor comparsion made in this thread the only race i might be doing if any is sprint and drag but looks is importeant (sp)

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by PlayStation3

for futhor comparsion made in this thread the only race i might be doing if any is sprint and drag but looks is importeant (sp)

if your going to be doing drag than you dont want these cars, they arent made for that and shouldnt be used for it. Also the matenance for the rotary wouldnt be any less than any other high performance car if you wanted to keep them in tip top shape.

Also the seals wouldnt blow if the owners would check/change the oil on time.
And yes I have been to the track and autocross events, not with my RX-8 cause I'm still breaking it in, but I went with my jetta, and my friend went with his 350. My step father had a FC and it lasted for 200,000+ miles for 12 years. He never had a problem with it, he had to get rid of it because he needed a sedan. That FC lasted longer than my diamante and my celica (which is supposed to have very good reliability but died after 152k miles.)

[BlackGT2000]

As for tradk times I think alot of people would benefit from going to a drag strip and trying it out. Racing a car on the road that is rated for 14.0 and beating it dosn't mean you are a good driver and capable of breaking 13's. I took my stang to the track a month or so ago and I couldn't break into the 14's, even though stock it is supposed to be able to run a 14.1. My second run I did a 15.8, thats terrible and I have beaten rx8's and wrx's on the street. I love the 350z though its my personal favorite out of the two.

[PlayStation3]

yea i saw and 04 350 track edition blue for 24k with like 15k on it. then next to it was a 05 rx-8 grand touring with like 4k on it for 23k but if i got the rx-8 it would either have to be 06 or newer or the person/dealer would have to prove to me that it went through all the recall tests that mazda is doing.

also ford does like to lie about there numbers btw

[98BlackTransAm]

FORD = Fucking Owned in a Race Daily