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Old 08-23-2002, 12:36 PM
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if Konig did not listed 17" Helium's on their website, they might do not make them. you might want to e-mail/call Konig and ask if they make 17" Helium.

if you're gonna go with 17" rims most likely acceleration will go down, but if you decide to go with 15" rims it will go up.
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Acceleration will go down but top speed will go up, correct?
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if overall diameter remain same as stock tire (or very close), top speed will be same.
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I think that most people who buy rims are first looking at the cosmetic advantage. Those that buy them with performance as their sole or first objective are in the minority. I think that 17's are the best for looks and performance. Personally, I don't like anything bigger on a Civic. Sixteens would be my second choice, being lighter, looking good, and less $. Go with 15's if you want the most performance and best ride comfort. But even different tires (brands and models -- research them carefully) of the same size will also affect ride quality. Your choice of tires will also affect many other very important characteristics.

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uuuuggghhh, OK, so you cant have it both ways. You cant have looks and performance. Cause all I see is cars with big rims which means they dont care about performance. That just seems so funny to me that they would have a MSD ignition and 17" wheels, that completly makes no sense. Your trying to get all the power you can with the smallest factors but you forget wheels which can do so much. I guess I'm in the minority so if I stick to stock size rims with lighter wheels I should get better performance, right?
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One more question; why do wheel and tire sites say that larger wheels enhance the looks and performance of your vehicle, such as Discount Tire Direct. Is it a lie?
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Old 08-25-2002, 11:58 AM
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Is it a lie?
No, they don't lie, they're just telling you half truth.
bigger rims will improve handling perfomance of car, due to smaller side wall of tires.

there is plenty wheels which can improve acceleration, but you have pay a lot of money for them, and Konig isn't one of them.
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No, they don't lie, they're just telling you half truth.
bigger rims will improve handling perfomance of car, due to smaller side wall of tires.

there is plenty wheels which can improve acceleration, but you have pay a lot of money for them, and Konig isn't one of them.

Are you talking about SPOON's wheels or RAY's Gram Lights? Whats the difference, if they weigh the same and have the same offset? I really want those Heliums, which are about 10 pounds. If I get them in a fifteen inch size do you think this will improve acceleration? Also, what about the weight of the tire? If the weight of a 17" with a small tire is equal to the weight of 15" with a large tire, which is better? You have to understand, I'm trying to get a little of both worlds, performance and looks. But if thats impossible, I'll take the performance. So lemme get this straight, big wheels= better handling, reduced acceleration. small wheels= better acceleration, basic handling. This is a big decision for me so please keep coming with information and advice, Thank you.
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:32 PM
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Are you talking about SPOON's wheels or RAY's Gram Lights? Whats the difference, if they weigh the same and have the same offset?
no, there are other companies i just don't remeber their names.
offset doesn't play any role in weight of rims.

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Originally posted by NuEra I really want those Heliums, which are about 10 pounds. If I get them in a fifteen inch size do you think this will improve acceleration? Also, what about the weight of the tire?
15" tires weight about 17-19lbs, and they heaver that 14" by 1-2lbs, but overall wheel weight will be reduced, because your stock rim weight about 18lbs.

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If the weight of a 17" with a small tire is equal to the weight of 15" with a large tire, which is better? You have to understand, I'm trying to get a little of both worlds, performance and looks. But if thats impossible, I'll take the performance. So lemme get this straight, big wheels= better handling, reduced acceleration. small wheels= better acceleration, basic handling. This is a big decision for me so please keep coming with information and advice, Thank you.
i'll give you my example;
my stock 15" rims were 18lbs and tires were 17lbs, so overall weight was 35lbs.
then i bought 17" OZ Racing Superleggera rims and they're 15lbs, i thought great i reduced weight by 3lbs. but when put them on my car felt little slower, and decide to find weight of tires, i went Dunlop web site and see tires that i have weight 23lbs. so i actualy gain 3lbs at each corner. and that came to 5.4hp lost, i'm even talking about weight been moved away from center of rotation, i don't how to calulate power lost due to to that.

so if you want to catch both worlds try to get rims that weight less that stock ones.

here is link to Bridgestone Potenza RE92 tires spec, find tire size that you have than tire that you want and compare weights, there isn't much defference in tire weights between tire companies.

http://www.bridgestonetire.com/dpp/s...assproductid=8
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