Now this should be exciting - McLaren versus Enzo on 5th Gear...

[Peloton25]

Originally Posted by Patster

what does the #16R look like right now? papaya with the HDK?

Here are some small photos:
Maranello Motorsport

Here are some that are more recent showing it in the UK wearing reg plate 'M700 BHP'

Some F1 pictures on Lambo-power

>8^)
ER

[autofocus]

Hi there,

I have been exchanging e-mails recently with the owner of 16R and I know he also owns an Enzo. I also know that has recently attended an event with Tiff Needell so I would say that 16R will definately be the car they are using.

I also have some photos of 16R that he sent me and will post a link to these as soon as I have uploaded them.

Regards

Tim

[carbuilder2002]

Hi Guys,
Check out Autocar 25 Nov 2003,

They did a back to back test on the F1 and Enzo.
It was a Red road trim F1.
Verdict was this:-
F1 best road car and Enzo best track car.
Incidentaly the test was done by Martin Brundle so probably the same test as the DVD/Video.
Would have scanned it but my scanner is knackered.

carbuilder2002

[Peloton25]

That article was unfortunately quite worthless. They never tested the cars head-to-head, it was simply a numbers comparison using their previous test data. The red road version was actually the non-running Clinic Model having been Photoshopped red and the Enzo photos were simply Ferrari's press shots regurgitated. It was actually quite disappointing as Autocar normally is a quality magazine and they could have done much better.

>8^)
ER

[carbuilder2002]

Point taken.

carbuilder2002

[autofocus]

Hi guys,

Recent photos of 16R as promised can be found using the link below.

www.dunlopix.com/page21.html

Sorry for the watermarks but I told the owner I would protect the pictures.

In the second picture you will see the guys Enzo as well. Should be nice to see them both on Fifth Gear next week.

Regards

Tim

[MalkaJB]

The car featured in next weeks Fifth Gear will be 16R. I have this last weeks episode on my comp, and the preview clearly shows a papaya GTR with the plates 'M700 BHP'. Looks interesting...

[Le Man]

It will be good to see 16R in action, Many thanks for the pics

[jayfive]

question is does 16r really have 700 BHP

[Peloton25]

Unlikely on the HP figure - maybe just wishful thinking.

Malka - Thanks for the added confirmation. I really hope 5th Gear takes the time to explain that #16R is a GTR otherwise we'll be forever correcting people.

Thanks for the new shots Tim - it was great of you to share them. Send thanks through to the owner as well.

>8^)
ER

[MalkaJB]

Screen caps from the preview:

[autofocus]

Originally Posted by jayfive

question is does 16r really have 700 BHP

Hi there,

According to an e-mail I received from the owner the car has "approx 680hp, weighs approx 950kg dry and is very very fast"

Regards

Tim

[jayfive]

So were into LM terrotry then, thought as much, gtr has to be a bit higher tuned than a normal F1 to compensate for the air restrictors i guess.

[Peloton25]

I'm sure if that's the case the air restrictors have simply been removed. They are typically mounted right in the air intake vent in the roof that feeds the airbox. Then McLaren would likely need to retune the ECU and possibly replace the cams as well to get that horsepower figure.

The quesiton is whether those modifications occurred before or after it was in Australia, because it was never mentioned in the ads when it still wore the FINA paint scheme, nor was it mentioned in the Maranello Motorsport listing. Seems like something you might want to publicize...

>8^)
ER

[carbuilder2002]

I may be wrong here (again) but the removal of the air restrictors and remapping would all be part of the conversion to road going trim that is carried out when a GTR is converted something not quite an LM? but pretty damn close. Besides are the GTR's not lighter than the LM's?

carbuilder2002