for the ppl that has v-tec

[turbosmith]

Originally posted by Setanta


Factory SiR, 221,000 kilometers on it, not driven gently in general. Regularly lives between 5000 and 8000 rpm. No leaks or burning oil.

Not any worse at all in my experience

Not Yet. But the day it blows or whatever is the day that I will be vindicated.:smoker2:

[amy@af]

grab your seats folks...i'm about to agree with my good ol' friend Setanta.

turbosmith that's great, fine, and dandy if you daily drive your car shifting at 3000. but let me clue you into something. honda build high rev engines on PURPOSE. it is no accident stock V-TEC (:silly2:, sorry Setanta that's the way "yanks" say it. if you can't beat it join it?!?!) rpm activation is 4800. it was programmed at 4800. if that isn't a HUGE clue that Honda designed the engine to be daily driven in higher RPM's...then...well...ummm....help me jebus...i don't know :what:

i guess then the EF9 SiR was build for grandma's sunday drive to the grocery store for milk.

and i was gonna keep my mouth shut after i read your response to mine... but then i read your response to setanta. i'll bet anyone his ride makes it past 300,000 miles. i have personally owned 2 honda's i finally sold after the 300+ mark...i still see both of them driving around on the same engine.

have a little faith in your honda's people! :smoker:

ami

[Setanta]

Originally posted by turbosmith


Not Yet. But the day it blows or whatever is the day that I will be vindicated.:smoker2:

Nice comeback... NOT

Did I mention that my Redline is 8200rpm? It's a performance engine thank you (Ami pointed this out nicely) - it's designed to be driven properly... not by a ... granny Look at the torque curve on a dyno sheet and you'll see why it's menat to be driven hard.

Still, I'll pass you a walking-frame to go with your 3000rpm redline... I've hear Niki's top out about there

Oh, and it may die, but it's had an above average life for a four pot over here - so that's all I care about. Anything else is cream

[mellowboy]

Well thanks for your guys help even though it kinda got off topic!! :finger:

[amy@af]

okay, in a nutshell. vtec is activated when it reaches a predermined rpm. it stays engaged while you are up in that high rpm.

so really we didn't get off topic...because you did eventually ask the right question:

I just wanted to know if its ok to drive it about 5 grand ( thats when my v-tec kicks in) and stay above 5 grand. I don't care about wasting gas i just care about gettin to my gurls house fast!

YES, you have a high performance engine...even if it's stock. 5000 is nothing when you keep in mind they factory set vtec to kick in there. if it wasn't designed to handle that high rpm then they would have made vtec kick in sooner

i know it seems almost scary to hold your b16 @ 5 grand but, that is because you're used to seeing the USDM d15b2/d16a6 sohc non v-tec. i am a fan of the d series and what can be done to it aftermarket...but, it's no b16 if you like to rev high on a stock engine.

[mellowboy]

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi



but, it's no b16 if you like to rev high on a stock engine.

Yeh it won't be a b16 if its not taken care of rite. Even if its high performance engine they still can have problems even if its stock. I was told that it would hurt the engine if i kept riding on my v-tec the whole way to Rockford which is an hour drive from my house. YOU SEE WHAT GURLS DO TO A MAN!!!!

[turbosmith]

HAHA some of you guys are classic. So offended and yet so wrong in one respect.

Lady

I know Honda engines like to rev and are built just that way. Mine gets its daily dosage of 6500RPM, don't worry.

My point from the beginning (Note: If you can't understand this well.......) Now the point being: If you drive Car A all the time at 3500RPM and another identical car B at 6000RPM. Expect Car A's engine to go longer. If you can't understand this then sell your car and ride the bus everyday. I am sure you all can understand but some of you are not reading or understanding what I am typing and my point.

Again, I know that Honda engines are pretty darn good and like to Rev and can do it all day but........... the one that has been abused less (asuuming everything else is equal) will go longer. Simple wear and tear engine principals.

Take it easy people

[Setanta]

Your opinion: Carefactor = 0
:finger:

Engine dies, you rebuild it

Factory SiR still going strong after 12 years says :finger: to what you believe

[turbosmith]

Originally posted by Setanta
Your opinion: Carefactor = 0
:finger:

Engine dies, you rebuild it

Factory SiR still going strong after 12 years says :finger: to what you believe

Man your pretty stupid..... Do you not understand my point??? I never said that the engine would not go for 200000 miles or even higher and still run great. LMAO!! It is like I am talking to some illiterate little kids. READ!!!!!!! Honda engines are good and last long. HAHA

[mellowboy]

Thats what i was tryin to say in my last post. Well i understand what turbosmith is sayin and i do agree with him. My friend has a b16 in his rex and he always beat the shit out of it. Well now he only have 3 cylinders working and yes he could build it up but NO MONEY! YES I would probably beat the shit out of my engine if i was rich or had alot money saved up but i don't . IT took me a long ass time just grab me a b16 and i want to take care of it just so it can last longer with NO PROBLEMS. Yes honda engines do last long but it depends how you take care of it!

[turbosmith]

Originally posted by mellowboy
Thats what i was tryin to say in my last post. Well i understand what turbosmith is sayin and i do agree with him. My friend has a b16 in his rex and he always beat the shit out of it. Well now he only have 3 cylinders working and yes he could build it up but NO MONEY! YES I would probably beat the shit out of my engine if i was rich or had alot money saved up but i don't . IT took me a long ass time just grab me a b16 and i want to take care of it just so it can last longer with NO PROBLEMS. Yes honda engines do last long but it depends how you take care of it!

YESSSSSS!!!!!! You see the light my friend.:flash:

TO REITERATE:
The Honda engines will go a long time, no doubt!!

But you drive two of the same engines the same distance the one that is less beaten on (Ceteris paribus) will last longer. THAT IS ALL!!

So drive in the VTEC whatever, whatever..... you car will still go 200K miles but maybe it coulda went 250K miles?

[Setanta]

Originally posted by turbosmith


Man your pretty stupid..... Do you not understand my point??? I never said that the engine would not go for 200000 miles or even higher and still run great. LMAO!! It is like I am talking to some illiterate little kids. READ!!!!!!! Honda engines are good and last long. HAHA

Ummm... having owned 8 Hondas in the 18 years I've been driving, not to mention having built engines for track and motorkhana'd them, I guess I know a little bit and am far from stupid. Given my occupation, I doubt I'm illiterate either.

Quite frankly, I consider you to be a bit of a tosser, pretty full of yourself, but without a real clue. Of course, I'd decided to keep that to myself until you came along and started putting others down.

You seem to think I care about how long my engine lasts now. It has outlasted the average lifespan of an engine that is subjected to the extremes we get in Australia. Over here, we drive our cars the way they are designed. The fact that the VTEC engagement takes place at 5000 and Honda sets the redline at 8000 RPM on a B16A. Peak power is not made until 7300. What does that suggest to you? To me it suggests that the power is there to be used, not ignored.

250,000 miles? Who cares - it dies, you rebuild it, end of story. Even someone like you can work out that 200,000 is pretty damn good.

Well, maybe not you.

[turbosmith]

Originally posted by Setanta


Ummm... having owned 8 Hondas in the 18 years I've been driving, not to mention having built engines for track and motorkhana'd them, I guess I know a little bit and am far from stupid. Given my occupation, I doubt I'm illiterate either.

Quite frankly, I consider you to be a bit of a tosser, pretty full of yourself, but without a real clue. Of course, I'd decided to keep that to myself until you came along and started putting others down.

You seem to think I care about how long my engine lasts now. It has outlasted the average lifespan of an engine that is subjected to the extremes we get in Australia. Over here, we drive our cars the way they are designed. The fact that the VTEC engagement takes place at 5000 and Honda sets the redline at 8000 RPM on a B16A. Peak power is not made until 7300. What does that suggest to you? To me it suggests that the power is there to be used, not ignored.

250,000 miles? Who cares - it dies, you rebuild it, end of story. Even someone like you can work out that 200,000 is pretty damn good.

Well, maybe not you.

I posted a logical fact. Everyone jumped on it because they did not READ. (<--Stress that word) Your not stupid or illiterate you just refused to actually READ my post. I see what you are saying, I figure it is equally easy to see what I am saying.

Maybe you don't care about engine life but a lot of people do. BUT again that wasn't even the topic or the point of my response. Please sift through the BS posted by some and get to the real point. You will see my point as I have seen yours and others points.

The whole probelm with this thread is that it's strayed far from the topic.

[amy@af]

Originally posted by turbosmith

I posted a logical fact. Everyone jumped on it because they did not READ. (<--Stress that word) Your not stupid or illiterate you just refused to actually READ my post. I see what you are saying, I figure it is equally easy to see what I am saying.

no dude, YOU need to READ. you keep saying in the long run a high rev b16 will die quicker. we are both telling you that is not true. it was designed to be driven that way. if anything underpowering it makes the engine work twice as hard....now what?

Originally posted by turbosmith
The whole probelm with this thread is that it's strayed far from the topic.

again, wrong. the orginal question is "Ok when go on a highway...is it bad to drive with the v-tec on all the time?". which was a beat around the bush question. then mellowboy asked: "I understand how v-tec works and all. I just wanted to know if its ok to drive it about 5 grand ( thats when my v-tec kicks in) and stay above 5 grand." so the debate of driving at high revs is right on track.

Originally posted by setanta
To me it suggests that the power is there to be used, not ignored.

some people just refuse to get it. fine. whatever the numbers don't lie. "The fact that the VTEC engagement takes place at 5000 and Honda sets the redline at 8000 RPM on a B16A. Peak power is not made until 7300"

...turbosmith, you can go argue it with honda. matter of fact please, go tell them "how dare you build a car with a factory setting of 5000rpm for vtec! you make all these people ware their cars out sooner!" that sounds pretty funny! wonder why?

you keep insisting we're not reading. slow down TURBO and do a little reading yourself. you know what they say...reading is fundamental...

ami

[mellowboy]

Ladynredsi: Everybody should calm down a bit. Seriously if any honda or ANY CARgets beat on its gonna have problems no doubt! Like i said my friend always beat on his CRX and he is running 3 cylinders. Now i just talked to my other friend with a gsr swap on his 2000 si and he is the worse driver i know. HE NEVER DRIVES NORMAL! He always beat on it no matter what. He tested his compression and its like 135-140 or something like that. When he first got that motor in it was 165 -170 since he beat on it so much look what happen? I will only beat my car in a race not daily! Ppl be like "damn why is that dude driving all retarded?" LOL. NOW i definatly now for a fact that it is NOT good to ride on your v-tec the whole hour drive. I appreciate your guys help. SO thanks!