Transfer case recall !!

[Killa]

Im back, I got appoiment today this morning, so i wake early and brought the car in at 8:00 am, I ask them, what did they replace when back in 1998, they cant pull up any thing from the pc, they told me that if they put the car in the jack and check, and if not the transfer case recall, they gonna charge me $80, that bull shit but Im 100% sure it was the seal and yoke leak( thanks vfaq again), so I told them go ahead and check, after 5 and a half hours waiting , they finally pull my car in and check ( they dont let me in the shop when they was checking ). after 30 min, they told me that,they just call chrysler corp, they say it can be replace again, so the dealer gonna replace all the seal, ring, U joint, and every thing else, not the new transfer case through, any way, I was happy and they told me all the part will be here in a week, call them on thrusday, and if they say all the part here, then I can bring my car on friday. Pheww..., I have so much relive now.Hopefully my IAC will be here soon. peace out.

[l_eclipse_l]

Sweet fucking deal.

BTW, you have the right to watch them work on your car. If they say you can't, they are full of shit and need to get punched in the balls. Atleast they are covering most of the shit though.

[Blackcrow64]

While we already have a transfer case thread here I would like to throw in a question of my own for my transfer case... (Sorry killer, I'm not trying to steal your thread. )

Right before my motor crankwalked, I developed a horrible leak where my transfer case and tranny meet. I am wondering if this was a transfer case problem or a tranny problem? I thought maybe something was going bad causing a leak there? Any ideas guys? It was a steady flow of fluid... Just about the same as if I were taking a piss.

[Killa]

Originally Posted by Blackcrow64

While we already have a transfer case thread here I would like to throw in a question of my own for my transfer case... (Sorry killer, I'm not trying to steal your thread. )

Right before my motor crankwalked, I developed a horrible leak where my transfer case and tranny meet. I am wondering if this was a transfer case problem or a tranny problem? I thought maybe something was going bad causing a leak there? Any ideas guys? It was a steady flow of fluid... Just about the same as if I were taking a piss.

Did you check out http://www.tmo.com/today/faqs/xferleak.htm ?. If it leak gear oil, brought it to the dealer, and they should fix it for you. Good luck

[gthompson97]

Originally Posted by Killer7

( thanks vfag again)

[Blackcrow64]

Originally Posted by Killer7

Did you check out http://www.tmo.com/today/faqs/xferleak.htm ?. If it leak gear oil, brought it to the dealer, and they should fix it for you. Good luck

Not the same leak I was talking about, but mine does have that leak too... I'll definetly be fixing that during my rebuild.

[Killa]

Originally Posted by gthompson97

my bad , my bad gthompson97 Im gonna murderrr you .

[kjewer1]

A leak between the tcase and tranny could be several things. Most common is probably a driver side axle seal leak, which is above the tcase, so it looks like it's coming from between the two. Could be the input seal on the tcase. Or it could be the output shaft seal on the tranny. The output shaft seal can be changed with the tranny in the car, but I don't think I will ever try that again. I'd rather just pull the tranny At any rate, none of these leaks will be covered by anything but your wallet. The recalls are only for the tcase output related leaks.

[Blackcrow64]

Originally Posted by kjewer1

A leak between the tcase and tranny could be several things. Most common is probably a driver side axle seal leak, which is above the tcase, so it looks like it's coming from between the two. Could be the input seal on the tcase. Or it could be the output shaft seal on the tranny. The output shaft seal can be changed with the tranny in the car, but I don't think I will ever try that again. I'd rather just pull the tranny At any rate, none of these leaks will be covered by anything but your wallet. The recalls are only for the tcase output related leaks.

Right, I figured it might have been a tranny seal or something. I wasn't even gonna try for a recall thing cause I know how dealerships are. Even though my output shaft is leaking due to that seal going bad too... The fluid has always been taken care of in it though. Do you think I will be ok to just replace that output shaft seal myself while everything is out of my car? I just don't wanna have my transfer case lockup on me after I get everything back together...

[Killa]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWN%3AIT

that is where I get my car from, any way, it say I have new TB, clutch ( I found alot oil under my foot, I think that why he replace the new clutch) and drive axels.

[kjewer1]

Originally Posted by Blackcrow64

Right, I figured it might have been a tranny seal or something. I wasn't even gonna try for a recall thing cause I know how dealerships are. Even though my output shaft is leaking due to that seal going bad too... The fluid has always been taken care of in it though. Do you think I will be ok to just replace that output shaft seal myself while everything is out of my car? I just don't wanna have my transfer case lockup on me after I get everything back together...

Are we talking about the same output shaft seal? The tcase output shaft seal is at the rearmost end of the tcase. The tranny output shaft seal, whcih I was refering to above, is between the tranny and tcase, below the clutch. Having that leak will roast the tranny, but the tcase will be fine Sounds like there is some confusion of all these seals here. Here is a list.

Tranny input shaft seal: On the tranny input shaft which slides into the clutch. A leak here will get oil on the clutch and ruin it, and it can no be changed without completely tearing down the tranny to the bare bellhousing case.

Tranny output shaft seal: On the shaft that goes "out" to the tcase. A leak here will drop oil down between the tranny and tcase. It's the lowest seal on the tranny, so it's the worst one to have leaking (can cause very low fluid level). It can be changed with the motor/tranny installed by just removing the tcase, but it's a shitty job.

Passenger side axle seal: Most common to go bad, usually damaged when pulling the passenger side axle for tranny or clutch related work. A leak here is obvious, it's the only seal on this side of the tranny. Having this seal leak can lower fluid level enough to ruin the higher input shaft seal.

Drivers side axle seal: Similar function to pass side seal, but this is a different part, has a metal sleeve. Rarely fails, but will drop fluid down in between tcase and tranny. Tcase has to be removed to see if it is leaking. Since it's connected to the same front diff as the passenger side axle, having this seal leak can lower fluid level enough to ruin the higher input shaft seal.

Tcase input shaft seal: Probably the only seal never to leak on my personally. Not sure if it is installed from the inside or outside, but should be easy enough to change either way.

Tcase output shaft seal: The common tcase leak, covered by the recall. Cheap and easy to change, which is why the dealer pussies out and does this every time and marks the recall as "done," but the damage the leaking seal caused to the yoke and sleeve is the real problem. New seals will not last if the yoke/sleeve are bad. Replace all three to be done with the job for good.

That was fun.

[Blackcrow64]

Thanks for all that Kevin.

I am talking about both output shafts. The one on the tranny is where I think the leak was coming from and the one on the end of the tcase is leaking as well. I am going to replace both and hope that solves that problem... How hard is it really to change the yoke and sleeve if they are bad?

[kjewer1]

I couldn't find a part number for the sleeve itself (though I heard it exists and can be changed seperately), and I was in a rush, so I ordered the whole tailshaft housing with new sleeve included. That was about 100 bucks IIRC. It just bolts on to the cast iron main body of the Tcase. The Yoke is a 35 dollar kit that is part of the recall (which is why it's so cheap, used to be more like 80 bucks I hear. Makes the stock holders think they didn't lose as much money for thier fuck up as they really did) and I had my brother change that way back when, so I can't comment on how hard that is to do. Many people do this themselves, but alternatively you could easily drop the driveshaft and have a driveshaft shop do the work for cheap money. The new tailshaft housing also came with a new seal. This is really the best way to fix this problem, if you have sleeve/yoke damage. In my case the damage was pretty easy to see. The parts should obviously be perfectly smooth and free of defects. If yours are fine the bad seal didn't ruin them yet. If the yoke is the cause of the bad seal however, the new seal won't last.

This is why I recomend replacing/updating all three parts at the same time. Do it once, do it right. It is a pretty serious safety issue after all.

[Blackcrow64]

Sweet. I will be replacing all of the seals then and anything else that is damaged. I don't wanna risk a lockup goin 55mph down the road. lol

[Fallenfantasies]

I got the 23 spline tcase sitting in my garage i come up off it for maybe like 30 or 40 dollars, or a nice trade. I swapped a a 1g trans into my 95 whenever it went out at like 185,000. Let me know bra, its in perfect condition and i just had to buy on off ebay for like 115. So my deal aint breakin balls.