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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

I've never heard anything bad about FFWD Connection so I would go to trust a cam that they sell and/or warranty. Definitely get some logs for us though.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

Got them today (shipping took like 2 days!) The look sweet. I'm just waiting for the car to cool down, i just took a log with 2 3rd pulls i'll post em when i post the after log too.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! I just finished putting the cams on, started it (sounded so fucking sweet!!!) Start driving it and it made a popping sound and started driving really shitty. well i wasn't far so i pretty much coasted home. I checked everything over nothing messed up then i try to start it again and nothing. I Thought oh shit my timing belt skipped and fucked my valves. So i turn it over by hand and it started off ok then got really hard. I'm like great... fucked the valves. So I stop and ask my brother to try and turn it. It turn like butter (i'm not sure butter turns but who knows) and of course he's calling me a pussy and shit, but then it gets hard again, we waited a few seconds and then it was easy to turn again! I looked into it and i think the oil pump check valve has gone bad cause excessive amounts of oil pressure. I haven't torn anything apart yet cause i'm not possitive but another thing was the past couple days when i open the hood the dip-stick was out a bit. Didn't think much of it till now, man this blow fucking ass.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

Do a quick compression test and then you'll have an idea if you fucked anything major.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

leakage test might work a little better
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

error in installation?
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

Did you oil the cam journals when you put them in? Will compression change with more aggresive cams?
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

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"as you don 't rev really high like more than 8k"

Wow, I would only be taking it to 7,200 because thats where the rev limiter is lol.
Get dsmlink and you can take it where you want!! But im sure you know this allready, but i thought i would say it anyways
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

It's supposed to get easy and hard as you turn it by hand. You're building compression in the cylinder If the timing was off, it would have been porked from the start. If you didn't mess with the tension, there is no reason for timing to jump unless you left the cam gear bolts loose. Pull the oil fill cap, and have someone crank the motor. If the cams turn, that's good. Then take it one step further and make sure it's still timed right. More than likely it's something stupid, like a sensor you forgot to reconnect or fell off, like the CAS. Hopefully.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

Well i had all the spark plugs puled so i don't think i was building compression. The cam gear were torqued to spec (58-72 ft lbs) I really think it's the oil pump pressure check valve. because as i turn it the oil builds pressure and i let it sit for a minute and it's easy to turn again. I left the t-belt on and clamped it to the cam gears so it's not a timing issue. I used assembly lube on the cams before i put them on. I was thinking that could have plugged the oil filter but i doubt that I'll pull that off before i take anything else off. I wonder if i can finish this today... I have all the parts so it looks like my car get a new timing belt and pulleys. (poor talon has to wait a little longer )

EDIT: Why are you guys up so early!?!?! I have dsmlink talon69, i guess i should add that to my signature.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

oil filters have a bypass valve so if they do get clogged oil can get around it still so you can rule that out. You said it didnt start at all? Something similar happened to me, the dowl pin on the intake cam snapped causing the gear to turn but not the cam and it ran fine for a while but then just studdered and died so maybe you should look into that.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

No it did start, ran and drove a little bit. I checked the dowels they're both there. Thanks for all the suggestions guys.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

What I ment was does it still start.
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Re: cams, Cams, CAms, CAMs, CAMS!!!!!!

Did you torque down the cams right? I was thinking if you forgot to torque them down, they may have worked loose and been moving up and down between the head and cam caps.
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