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Old 07-11-2002, 01:19 PM
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Nope, it's not unsafe, it is just that I am pumping 14 pounds of hot air, so I am getting a huge power loss.

And TV, I'll take ya' on sometime. And I would say low 14s is very respectable for a stock 4 banger that weights about 2800 pounds. I'll have her running low 12s soon enough.
Oh, I just thought you might be getting detonation since the air is hotter w/o and intercooler...

How did your intercooler break anyways? Just get all beat up and air wont flow through it or what?

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Old 07-11-2002, 02:06 PM
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Well, I'm not quite sure. I don't think I have been getting detonation, though it is possible, I should use some octane boost just to be sure. As for the intercooler, it isn't cooling the air. I am not sure what is wrong but there is a story in the Dodge nonspecific sub-forum about what happened with a repair shop and I am 100% sure that they screwed it up.
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Old 07-11-2002, 02:33 PM
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Yea. the Bonneville is the perfect sleeper.............no one ever expects to get their doors blown off by a full-size....and i mean FULL-SIZE, family sedan..........my car is quite large, and quite heavy...this thing is super long......haha....that's why everyone is so surprised when they get their ass kicked.....i love it!
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I am not sure what is wrong but there is a story in the Dodge nonspecific sub-forum about what happened with a repair shop and I am 100% sure that they screwed it up.
If I remember right, LeBarons have a duct on the hood that scoops air over the intercooler. Maybe the shop took it off and re-mounted it at an incorrect angle, so the air isn't blowing on it to cool it off? Possibly it is not operating at peak efficiency...
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Nope, I don't have a duct on my hood. My intercooler is mounted on the radiator. I don't know what they did to it, but I am going to have it checked out. Granted they could have screwed something else up, but my car does not pull even close to as hard as it used to.

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mugen header on your turbo teg eh?

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considering mugen doesn't do turbo stuff... at all.
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Yea. the Bonneville is the perfect sleeper.............no one ever expects to get their doors blown off by a full-size....and i mean FULL-SIZE, family sedan..........my car is quite large, and quite heavy...this thing is super long......haha....that's why everyone is so surprised when they get their ass kicked.....i love it!
Heres to the big ass sleepers!

T-bird isnt quite as big as a Bonbon, but still, people expect Mr Magoo to be at the wheels, then when it smokes them, hell yah :bandit: Thats the shit

14 for a stock 4, hell yah thats respectable, and get that intercooler fixed -fast- because you will have detanation especally with such high boost. You might simply split a piston head, rip it apart etc. Question though, before the shop, did you have your timing retarded?
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I know the look on peoples faces when they run up on my Accord or Z. I still run the stock wjeels on the Accord and it's only lowered about 1.2 inches so it looks stock with just a cat-back. The Z is debadged with a single-out exhaust so it is constantly mistaken for a six cylinder.
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The LeBaron is the a perfect sleeper, weighing in at 2800 pounds is perfect weight for a good set-up. The LeBaron is RWD right? I would try and find a good supercharger instead of a turbo when it comes time to upgrade. The lowend power I think would really help get you better times. I suggest a supercharger over a turbo because from a 1989 135CID 4 cylinder that has 7.8:1 compression, you can't expect all too much. The spool time of a large turbo would kill ya anyway, since the supercharger is linear, you got power right off the start. A much more modest torque curve.

In order for you to get a noticeable gain in power, and without killing the engine in under 25K miles, you will need to do alot of upgrades to many of the engines parts. cams, lifters, higher compression pistons, new rings, the whole deal. Then when you strap on a good supercharger to that block you could be looking upwards of 350hp. Which would make your car a 12 seconds car.
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Old 07-14-2002, 04:36 PM
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14 for a stock 4, hell yah thats respectable, and get that intercooler fixed -fast- because you will have detanation especally with such high boost. You might simply split a piston head, rip it apart etc. Question though, before the shop, did you have your timing retarded?
Nope, but the shop did retard the timing when they worked on it. I haven't been hearing detonation but now that you guys mention it, it is starting to bug me. I might take it in soon to have it looked at.

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The LeBaron is the a perfect sleeper, weighing in at 2800 pounds is perfect weight for a good set-up. The LeBaron is RWD right? I would try and find a good supercharger instead of a turbo when it comes time to upgrade. The lowend power I think would really help get you better times. I suggest a supercharger over a turbo because from a 1989 135CID 4 cylinder that has 7.8:1 compression, you can't expect all too much. The spool time of a large turbo would kill ya anyway, since the supercharger is linear, you got power right off the start. A much more modest torque curve.

In order for you to get a noticeable gain in power, and without killing the engine in under 25K miles, you will need to do alot of upgrades to many of the engines parts. cams, lifters, higher compression pistons, new rings, the whole deal. Then when you strap on a good supercharger to that block you could be looking upwards of 350hp. Which would make your car a 12 seconds car.
Well, the LeBarons from the 80s are FWD. As for the engine I am a 2.2L and my compression ratio is 8:1. I can run well over 20PSI on the stock internals; I might just have to start replacing components of the fuel delivery system. You can get a stock GTC running in the 12s with out much modifications. I am definetly sticking with the turbo, more power and better gas mileage plus I can reduce the turbo lag big time. Check out this little vid:

12 sec GTC.
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your LeBaron weighs 2800lbs?
My Nova weighs in around 2800-3000lbs...

Interesting...


You people ever race Muscle cars? I never got many Revs thrown at me before i took my car out of action, so i could restore her.

Hondas, Acuras and the such never really bothered me. I guess they figured an older car with a V8 of any size wasnt worth their time. Which worked out for me, seeing as at the time i couldnt afford the gas hahaha.

I cant wait for my car to be back in action... ahh the good ol days of hunting down the next kill. Not to say I never lost myself, when a car sits for 6+ years it usually doesnt run the best for a while. Regardless we rallied her for all she was worth!

Just ask Terminal Velocity... he knows... we've done it all in that car.
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Old 07-15-2002, 03:03 PM
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your LeBaron weighs 2800lbs?
My Nova weighs in around 2800-3000lbs...

Interesting...


You people ever race Muscle cars? I never got many Revs thrown at me before i took my car out of action, so i could restore her.
I try not to race Muscle cars, I have raced enough that I know I can't beat many :P

I had a guy in a older Ford Falcon pull up next to me while I was going 65, I floored it, at about the same time he did... he didn't just walk away he RAN away with his motor screaming the whole way... It was bad ass

Gotta love that good old american muscle...

BTW, got any pics of your car? It sounds pretty bad ass, I was going to buy a Nova, but couldn't find one in good shape in my price range... (I wanted the older ones, not the ones where the back slopes... you know the ones i mean?)

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Thanks, Ill tell the nice Lady known as Jezabell (shes a shameless little hussy)... that you think shes bad ass... lol she'll appreciate it. I dont know about you people, but my car is very tempermental about how you treat her, if you abuse her she'll leave you stranded.. or even worse NOT want to go when some punk on a Huffy throws a rev! Ugh... the humiliation! So I talk to her always in a calm matter... Unlike Terminal Velocity... His famous remarks to his Trans Am "WOOOOORRRKKKKKKK!!!!" hahahahah its one of those you had to be there moments.

The Nova's you like range from 1962-1967, in '68 they got the 'slopey' body style. I love them all.

As for pictures of my Nova... shes about as ugly as a train wreck right now. But compared to what she used to look like... shes a show car! What I mean is, she used to be 7 different colors. 5 shades of gray, Green and Black. Arent I cool? in my various colored car? Yes, the Ladies just flocked to it!... Stop laughing. Since then its been primered all ONE color, but the new 2" cowl Induction hood is black. No pichers yet... soon though.

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my cars liked it rough. Granded head on is a lil too rough, but look at my current car *she just dun want a name* If I treat her rough, she loves me for it. :bandit:
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Do you toss her around like a cheap hooker?

And Polygon, any luck with those morons at the repair shop?
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