Gotian and a RX-8 Test Drive

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by TatII

rx-8 is trash in my eyes. plus the 350Z doesn't do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds its more like 5.4 seconds. plus look at the trap speed, the RX-8 barely breaks 96mph which is pathetic for a 30K car, while the Z can break 100mph. not even close. a rsx type S can keep up with that sorry ass of a car.

plus the ride is too soft for my liking and i actually like driving cars with torque. plus those wheels may look okay, but they're sunken in like crazy, very very skinny rims and tire combo, not to mention that those fenders looks very out of place and tacked on, they look like round bubbles on a arrow.

plus the body is too tacky, too many triangles to try to give the average sthmoe hints that its a rotary. well i feel that in 10 years, the car would age pretty bad like a 3000GT ( no offense ) rather then gracefully like a Z32 or a RX-7 FD3S or FC3S, or even a 350Z. its the lack of details, and tacky add ons thats what makes these cars so clean and beautiful, they will never run out of style.

my 2 cents.

to each his own

[Musashi3000GT]

And your 2 cents are respected here Tat but remember the RX-8 is not a straight line car so we never expected the 1/4 time to be too impressive.

I think I'll test the RX-8 myself and give you guys a double review on it so we see it from two different points of view. I like most of you felt Mazda fucked up big time with the RX-8. No torque, no straight line thrill, four-door? I mean its the sports car that isnt really a sports car. so I'll test it re-review it and compare with gotian's review.

[Gotian]

a cars peformance is no just what it can do on a straight line it's much more than that and i think you guys dont realize that

[turtlecrxsi]

A guy at my work rented one to drive out of state and he said acceleration was weak but once it got moving it just kept gaining speed. But this is coming from a guy with an automatic Prelude.

[TheStang00]

i like the RX-8 a lot myself, although i wonder if it would be feasable to put a turbo on it yourself. that would probably determine whether id buy it or not.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

i like the RX-8 a lot myself, although i wonder if it would be feasable to put a turbo on it yourself. that would probably determine whether id buy it or not.

there is a turbo kit out for it that would put you well above 350hp when your done, the kit is from greddy and it costs about 4k.

There is also a supercharger for it as well.

[VR43000GT]

Gotian you said to make suggestions. How bout an Enzo review? I dont think Mazda screwed up terribely on the RX-8. The RX-7 was very expensive (correct me if Im wrong) and with the money you would put into an Rx-8 you could make it just as good if not better. I dont think its fair to compare it to the rx-7 just because its the next model because of the price value. Yeah they have similar names but that doesnt mean they are the same car. And the RX-8 puts out close to the same HP as some turbo rx-7's.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by SL3000gt

Gotian you said to make suggestions. How bout an Enzo review? I dont think Mazda screwed up terribely on the RX-8. The RX-7 was very expensive (correct me if Im wrong) and with the money you would put into an Rx-8 you could make it just as good if not better. I dont think its fair to compare it to the rx-7 just because its the next model because of the price value. Yeah they have similar names but that doesnt mean they are the same car. And the RX-8 puts out close to the same HP as some turbo rx-7's.

Don't think I would be allowed to drive an Enzo

As far as the RX-8 goes, thank you for understanding mazda a bit. It is alot more cost effective to make the RX-8 non turbo with exactly the same power as the RX-7 (the japanese RX-8 has 250HP cause of emmissions, take off the cats and you would have the 250 on the ones here). They are 2 different cars as you said. As far as base engines go the Renesis rotary is a far better design that creates more power without the use of a turbo, and it transfers the power better as well. While the rx-7's base engine power was 160 for the non turbos and the ones with turbos had a base power of 180, so the big jump to 250 without the use of a turbo is a major increase and improvement.

The Turbo in the rx-7 gave most of the power including the 215 Ibs of torque. I'd rather spend 15k less on a non turbo and then turbo it for 4k

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by Gotian

Like what your BMW 325? (j/K)

Well, I've never lost to an RX-8, a Jetta/Audi 1.8t, or a 3KGT (hell I flat out embaressed one last night on the highway), so *shrug*

Anyways, I'll go ahead and head up to the Pontiac dealer around here, see if they have any 6.0 GTOs on the lot, or maybe bring back from the dead my test drive of an M3.

Oh, and I notice you talk about modding the 8 to make it better...didn't you state in some other one of these reviews your not trying to compare modded cars or something like that?

[VR43000GT]

Originally Posted by CassiesMan

Oh, and I notice you talk about modding the 8 to make it better...didn't you state in some other one of these reviews your not trying to compare modded cars or something like that?

Yes they were. I was just stating that un-modded you could have the equivalant HP of an un-modded RX-7. Which, yes, you can make any car fast with enough mods but I was just trying to show that you couldn't compare the two equally unless the RX-8 is modded. Which in this case it isn't and we aren't supposed to be comparing with mods yet others are comparing these two when in fact that isnt a fair comparison unless the RX-8 has mods. Kind of hard to put in words. So in conclusion, they shouldn't be compared unless the RX-8 is modded so dont compare the two.

On a side note: I was j/k about the Enzo. Unless you have the chance to then by all means do it.....do it......do it.

[Gotian]

I mentioned the turbo cause someone had asked. And I mentioned about removing the cats cause technically,even though considered a mod here, it isnt a mod in japan cause it comes like that stock allowing for the 250 hp

[Igovert500]

Originally Posted by CassiesMan

Well, I've never lost to an RX-8, a Jetta/Audi 1.8t, or a 3KGT (hell I flat out embaressed one last night on the highway)

Well obviously you're racing the wrong ones jk, but how come we didn't hear this race story?

[TatII]

not true. a RX-8 doens't even come close to what a stock RX-7 puts down. sure they are rated similar but mazda is nortorious for over rating their cars. at first then rated the car at 250hp then people strapped it to the dyno and it only made 190whp. so its not even a 240hp car because a S2000 making only 240hp is putting down 200whp.

so what does mazda do? they just took the lazy way out, they re rated the car to 238hp ( which in my opinion is still alittle bit overated ) and they would buy the car back from owners or give those a year of free maintainance.

also i don't know where you saw 350hp from for a greddy turbo kit, but the kit is suppose to raise the power up to a pathetic 230whp. no thanks, i'd rather whip my ass with hundred dollar bills then to waste money to get less whp then a stock SRT-4 and having to blow 4K doing it too.

but if you think 230whp is little, well considering the car puts down 190whp stock its a 40whp gain with very low boost so it okay. but to put it into perspective, a stock RX-7 is known to put down 220-230whp stock, so its not even close in power wise. a RX-7 traps 102-103mph, when a RX-8 traps up to 97mph which is laugabily bad. also they claim the RX-8 is light well its a 3000lb car so its not exactly light like a 2700-2800 lb rx-7. however i do admit its built alot better but the interior still will fade over time, the a/c barely works, and the interior gets really hot because of the rotary engine sitting so close to your leg.

too many flaws, its ugly, slow, and expensive. i would rather take a rsx type S over a rx-8 becasue its just as fast, but cheaper, and better built.

[sportsb4life7]

Originally Posted by Gotian

they probably wouldnt let me test drive one, im not 25 and plus they most likely wont take me seriously. (for the ZO6)

walk in with a nice suit on and shades and all professional and act all cocky and stuff ... lol im sure they would then

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by Igovert500

Well obviously you're racing the wrong ones jk, but how come we didn't hear this race story?

LOL, nice!

Which one? I've had millions of kills against 1.8 VAG products, its like a civic kill, I dont even post that much any more. I ran a 3KGT once, beat it by about a car length and held it off up to 110, 115. Never really thought about posting it, never seemed that big of a deal. Same with the RX-8, pulled on it about a length up to 75, then stopped the pull, but held it back till about 120 when I let off becuase we were in a 45, and the embarassing of the 3K was last night, I was gonna wait till I got back to school to post all my Texas street racing stories but if you want I'll post them now.

Tat...took the words right out of my mouth.