Announcing the Enzo Ferrari:

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by Porsche


WTF is with the name?

it is in honour of their founder, because of the anniversary of Ferrari's founding (50 years or somet like that, i neva was any good at history)

[crayzayjay]

I think the F50 was built to celebrate the 50 years of Ferrari (hence the name).. They must have called it Enzo to commemorate the founder of Ferrari, simple as that

[hermunn123]

Originally posted by Porsche


I'll be sure to race one in my Porsche Ferdinand Porsche. WTF is with the name?

and i'm 99% sure that the name is the Enzo Ferrari(or just Enzo). not the Ferrari Enzo Ferrari. think about it.... Ferrari Enzo Ferrari? how gay is that?

[|Banchi1O5|]

i agree that its ugly

nothing still quite says "supercar" like the f50

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by crayzayjay
I think the F50 was built to celebrate the 50 years of Ferrari (hence the name).. They must have called it Enzo to commemorate the founder of Ferrari, simple as that

i dunno really, i just know its an anniversary of something to do with Enzo Ferrari, mite be his death, his birth, i dunno what though

[hermunn123]

i'm with crazayjay on this one. i think they called it Enzo just to commemorate its founder. i don't think there is an anniversary of any date.

[KCT]

“Ferrari is a company whose characteristics have more in common with a luxury goods company than with a car firm, given its limited production, exclusivity, attention to its image and its emotional relationship with its customers. “We can say that we have reached the very top. A cycle is complete, both in terms of a renewed range of road cars and in terms of success in F1. In 2001, Ferrari and Maserati sold a total of 6158 cars. Looking at the accounts, the net position in 2001 is 172 million Euro, compared with 130 in 2000. Total sales for 2001 amounted to 1058 million Euro compared with 893 in 2000. We will talk about the future when the time is right, but looking at the first 5 months of 2002, the predictions are for even better results. In F1, we have won the Constructors’ Championship since 1999 and, for the past two years, we have also won the Drivers’ title,” said Montezemolo. “However, Ferrari went through some difficult years while we restructured. Therefore, we know very well the value of hard work and sacrifice and we know it could all happen again, but we are prepared to meet that possibility, both in material terms and psychologically, with the determination which has always characterised our approach.

“Five years ago, when we started working on the Formula Uomo project, we were not thinking of the Stock Markets, but in any case our plans do not change, even with the acquisition of 34% of Ferrari by Mediobanca. The quotation will simply take a bit longer and it will not happen before the end of this year. I am really happy that Ferrari managed to satisfy Fiat at this particular moment which I am sure will be overcome,” continued Montezemolo. “The acquisition price is in line with the values indicated this week by the three banks with which we have been working recently; Deutsche Bank, Unicredito and Banca Intesa. I would like to thank them for their excellent work, given that it will be the key to the future quotation. “I would also like to welcome our new shareholder, Mediobanca and point out that

Ferrari will always do its utmost for its shareholders. “The financial resources will serve for development,” added Montezemolo. “But Fiat has stated that come what may, it will maintain 51% of Ferrari. This in no way changes our plans which are totally self-financed.”

President Montezemolo ended with two special words of thanks: “To our workforce, which has always worked with, determination, strength and unity and to Avvocato Agnelli, who has always shown us courage and unwavering faith and has shown patience in waiting for our objectives to be reached."

[Porsche]

Originally posted by hermunn123


and i'm 99% sure that the name is the Enzo Ferrari(or just Enzo). not the Ferrari Enzo Ferrari. think about it.... Ferrari Enzo Ferrari? how gay is that?

Finally, somebody understood my point.

[Chris]

The name is Enzo Ferrari. So, it is the Ferrari 'Enzo Ferrari', just like an Impala is a Chevrolet 'Impala'. Of course, everyone calls it the "Enzo".

Now, my rant
What is the point of making this car so goddamn heavy. My moms grandam has similiar dimensions (except taller and narrower). It weights 3150lbs. It has 5 seats, a trunk, a stereo, some luxury features (well, comfortable is more like it). It also has steel disc brakes, not the fancy ones Ferrari uses. It has a metal body and steel frame, not carbon fiber, kevlar, and aluminum. Granted, its engine is smaller, but it is made of iron and steel, and its hooked to an automatic, which is quite heavy. It also has lots of thick, heavy glass. Oh, and it cost about $19000 when new.
So why the fuck is this "Ultimate Ferrari" 3000lbs
It is made of the most advanced materials known, it probably has a smaller volume than the Grandam. It has 2 lightweight seats, and no stereo. It has amazing brakes that are super light.. So, where's the beef???? Why can't supercar makers make their cars light, then you wouldn't need to spend so much time engineering it, it would inherently handle better.
I think Ferrari should take notes from YES and Lotus. Slap that V12 in an elise, and it would be under 2000lbs still. That would be a supercar. All in all, I am very dissapointed.

PS, people generally don't find fat ladies attractive, but seem to be drawn to obese vehicles.

PSS: *Braces for the Flames*

[Pennzoil GT-R]

Originally posted by Chris

Now, my rant
What is the point of making this car so goddamn heavy. My moms grandam has similiar dimensions (except taller and narrower). It weights 3150lbs. It has 5 seats, a trunk, a stereo, some luxury features (well, comfortable is more like it). It also has steel disc brakes, not the fancy ones Ferrari uses. It has a metal body and steel frame, not carbon fiber, kevlar, and aluminum. Granted, its engine is smaller, but it is made of iron and steel, and its hooked to an automatic, which is quite heavy. It also has lots of thick, heavy glass. Oh, and it cost about $19000 when new.
So why the fuck is this "Ultimate Ferrari" 3000lbs
It is made of the most advanced materials known, it probably has a smaller volume than the Grandam. It has 2 lightweight seats, and no stereo. It has amazing brakes that are super light.. So, where's the beef???? Why can't supercar makers make their cars light, then you wouldn't need to spend so much time engineering it, it would inherently handle better.
I think Ferrari should take notes from YES and Lotus. Slap that V12 in an elise, and it would be under 2000lbs still. That would be a supercar. All in all, I am very dissapointed.

PS, people generally don't find fat ladies attractive, but seem to be drawn to obese vehicles.

PSS: *Braces for the Flames*

its body creates downforce, so it makes up for any weight with downforce in handling. the engine is powerful enough, and Ferrari are more concerned with driver appeal than straight line speed anyway. This car has an incredibly high 1.36 (i think) lateral G rating and also has excellent handling charachteristics.

[crayzayjay]

It's relatively heavy because unlike a grandam, its body structure has to be capable of withstanding extreme forces and therefore has to be supremely reinforced. It could have been lighter with the use of more exotic materials, but Ferrari weren't working on a no-expense-spared basis like McLaren were with the F1.
Also, modern crash test legislations and emissions requirements are forcing cars to get heavier and heavier each year. At 1365kg, Ferrari still did miss their target of 1300kg, but with 650bhp i dont think the Enzo is a slouch

[Menu dei Motori]

Originally posted by hermunn123


and i'm 99% sure that the name is the Enzo Ferrari(or just Enzo). not the Ferrari Enzo Ferrari. think about it.... Ferrari Enzo Ferrari? how gay is that?

name: Ferrari Enzo Ferrari

gay name
but not a gay car

[Chris]

I was thinking about your post for awhile, CrazayJay. Then I thought about the front wings of an F1 car. They are held on by 2 little strips of material. They also generate tremoundous downforce, and hence, are under extreme pressure. The rest of the car also has to endure super extreme pressure, and they are light (yes, they are smaller). And the law of diminishing returns says that you could get close to the same strength for a lot less $$$$$, so the F60 could be made really well.

I am just upset that all these "super cars" are so heavy. Make them smaller if you have to, just lose some weight. Thats all I want:cry:

[Menu dei Motori]

Originally posted by Chris

I am just upset that all these "super cars" are so heavy. Make them smaller if you have to, just lose some weight. Thats all I want:cry:

like a lotus with more power??

[Chris]

Yes. An Elise weighs about 1800lbs, and the 340R is even lighter. It is plenty strong for what it does, and super fast. It would need some more strength to cope with the extra power, but its materials would be turned into carbon fiber, kevlar, and aluminum honeycomb, getting some of the weight back. And when you look at the Enzo from a lower top, you get a real sense of hugeness (The October Road and Track)