srt-4 vs. ls1 t/a

[6speed]

i dont even want to get into a debate on car and driver, motor trend, etc. but their numbers are garbage. 13.6 for an ls1??? jesus h...whos driving that car, a 95 yr old lady? i pulled off a 13.6 in a bone stock 96 cobra. my 01 ws6 wouldve run that thing through the ground. theres also this huge myth surrounding the ws6 and ss as being somehow god-like. its the name that is hyped up as if they are on two entirely different playing fields; a z28 and a ss is practically a dead-even matchup...they changed the hood..whoopee doo.
to get this back on subject..any car can be made fast. a 4cyl civic hatch can take down a viper for the right amount of $. but all things being equal a srt4 < lt1 < ls1. period.

[MclarenF1]

I've gotta agree with you on all of the above points. Especially the SS vs Z28 argument. They were pretty much the same thing, with just fractions of a second separating their performance in stock form. Based on what I've seen, the differences between the LT1 SS and Z28 models might have been just a little greater than the differences between the LS1 SS and Z28 models. However, a chip and intake would MORE than make up the differences that existed between each respective trim level, regardless.

As far as the Neon argument goes, I'm not sure why some people want to argue that the LT1 was so much slower than the Ls1. Yes, I would take the LS over the LT in a heartbeat, but the LT was still a hot motor- especially in its last years. My God man, it made 330hp in the last Corvettes, and had a reputation for being underrated.

The LS1 is just one hell of a motor, regardless of year or model.

[6speed]

yea, and lets not get started on the ls6, ls2, ls7 and possible ls9...theyre ridiculous

[flatlander757]

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...D123A0C25B.htm

LT1 vs SRT4

Both probably have some basic bolt ons but either way it's quite clear.


LS1 won't even get touched. You SRT4 people argue that it's cheap to go fast.

Well, throw a $200-300 cam in an LS1 with the basic stuff like exhaust and lid and you've got well over 400RWHP.

The Truth:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...6648EB06AE.htm


And also, I work at a Dodge dealership... and about 90% of the SRT4 owners that come in are seemingly dumbass teenagers. Full of themselves.

[iPoddity]

pffffffffffffft

the SRT-4 just cant take a V8 F-body in a stock race. its not gonna happen

now, with mods, yes

the you can get more power out of the V8 for less money then you can with the SRT-4

[Andydg]

Originally Posted by iPoddity

pffffffffffffft

the SRT-4 just cant take a V8 F-body in a stock race. its not gonna happen

now, with mods, yes

the you can get more power out of the V8 for less money then you can with the SRT-4

They could take a 3rd gen or maybe a 2nd gen but not a 4th gen that's for sure.

[zx2guy]

Originally Posted by flatlander757

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...D123A0C25B.htm

LT1 vs SRT4

Both probably have some basic bolt ons but either way it's quite clear.


LS1 won't even get touched. You SRT4 people argue that it's cheap to go fast.

Well, throw a $200-300 cam in an LS1 with the basic stuff like exhaust and lid and you've got well over 400RWHP.

The Truth:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...6648EB06AE.htm


And also, I work at a Dodge dealership... and about 90% of the SRT4 owners that come in are seemingly dumbass teenagers. Full of themselves.

this vid is evidence, i mean now you can say... oh he didnt have a good run, but the second run the srt had a jump on him. personally i would go firebird, why? over all better tech, i mean firebirds were what in their 30's when neons came around. they have had the time to work out all the kinks, they know what works. the srt4 < if dodge kept it, and adjusted and tinkered, maybe just maybe, but i just dont think it has the power, the proper setup( turbos gotta spoolup), the aerodynamics, i mean firebird was a cornerstone to pontiac, it was good for a reason. (not to offend anyone, i know this discussion has even rippled into other forums, and people have goten pretty pissed over it)

[Fuzzy_C]

i've destroyed alot of srt4's, as far as i'm concerned they're just another neon, they may give it a different name, but it's still a neon as long as it's got those testicle shaped headlights. i think a 3rd or 4th gen v6 is about the only f-body an srt4 can race and be confident of a win.