Srt-4 Vs. GTO

[Musashi3000GT]

Originally Posted by silverado122775

here are the stats for both the SRT-4 and GTO 6.0L

SRT-4: 0-60 5.8 secs
2.4 Litre 230HP 250 lb-ft torque
Ref: http://www.dodge.com/srt-4/performan...&type=textLink

GTO: 0-60 4.6 secs (auto) 4.7 secs (man)
6.0L LS2 400hp 400lb-ft torque
ref: http://www.pontiac.com/pdf/06Pontiac_GTO.pdf

Now the Dodge is quick.. do not get me wrong.. but it does not compare to the GTO.. my assessment is that the GTO was not at full throttle or the driver was not an experienced street racer.

Good kill, Just becareful next time comming across one of these. you may not be so lucky next time

Dude in the future do your research correctly so that you dont look like a noob.
You made two mistakes, 1. it couldnt of been the lower clas 350hp GTO cause he said it was a 6.0 which only comes with 400HP. the 5.7 is the one with 350.

and 2. your comparo is bull cause the numbers you posted for the SRT-4 are at the wheels and the numbers for the GTO are at the crank. the GTO puts out closser to 330 at the wheels.
so thats about 330 hp GTO at 3700lbs
and for the 4-banger its 230 hp at 2900lbs.

thats 11hp per pound for the GTO
thats 13hp per pound for the SRT-4

the SRT wins the power to weight ratio battle. Why anyone would doubt he won is beyond me. Only thing I can think of is that Bald Eagle mentality that V8s own all.
Like my mentor Yogs always says " the biggest factor in a street race is the drivers skill"

Good kill Erik!

[TerminalVelocity]

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[Musashi3000GT]

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[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by Musashi3000GT

the SRT wins the power to weight ratio battle. Why anyone would doubt he won is beyond me

probably because those gtos run low 13s consistently while the sarties dont always even get into the 13s... but i dont doubt he won myself. shit happens, some people cant drive.

[chexmixa]

Think of it this way, 99% of street races i have seen from a dig is all driver. I have seen cars you wouldn't think could keep up with a faster car do it because of driver error.

The GTO is fast is hell and with a perfect driver would have no trouble with a srt4.

I deff think drifty beat the GTO he knows his car better then the other guy new his.

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by Gotian

here's the thing
1) The gto weighs 3700 and the srt-4 weighs 2900
2) The Srt-4 has torque at 2,200rpm and the GTO has it at 4,000

You're forgetting that, that is Peak Torque at 4000rpm, it makes plenty down low...

Here is a stock 2005 6.0 LS2 GTO dyno chart...




As you can see, it just doesn't randomly make the 400ft-lbs at 4000rpm, it starts off with about 300fts at nearly 2000rpm.

I can imagine him not getting an excellent launch due to lack of traction. Plus, from what I gather the GTO's have a slight wheel hop problem under heavy acceleration. So it's possible he wasn't fully in it till he was rolling in say 2nd gear, by that time Drifty was already doing his thing full bore.




Here's the article I got the info from: http://www.gmhightechperformance.com.../0511htp_goat/

[chexmixa]

Damn the tq curve is reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll nice

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by chexmixa

Damn the tq curve is reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalll nice

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by Gotian

here's the thing
1) The gto weighs 3700 and the srt-4 weighs 2900
2) The Srt-4 has torque at 2,200rpm and the GTO has it at 4,000
3) as i told drifty last night if it was a good driver he wouldve lost
4) and finally, as i told drifty if it was an automatic he wouldve lost, doesnt take a genious to figure out how to floor it

that weight doesnt play such a big roll when the gto has 170hp on it.

its obvious he got lucky, and that wouldnt be the outcome had we had two equal drivers, it would be a slaughter, but its street racing, and things happen, so no need to tell him you only one by driver error, i hope were all smart enough to understand thats common sense(not trying to come off harsh) but people always feel the need to tell someone why they one. i think a "your lucky" is just fine

nice kill!!

[-Jayson-]

uhh also incase you guys dont know, torque wins races not HP, HP is derived from TQ and when you have a car with an extremly flat torque cruve like that GTO does, you get instant down low power. Its violent off the line, but top end they usually fall on there face.

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by Musashi3000GT

Dude in the future do your research correctly so that you dont look like a noob.
You made two mistakes, 1. it couldnt of been the lower clas 350hp GTO cause he said it was a 6.0 which only comes with 400HP. the 5.7 is the one with 350.

and 2. your comparo is bull cause the numbers you posted for the SRT-4 are at the wheels and the numbers for the GTO are at the crank. the GTO puts out closser to 330 at the wheels.
so thats about 330 hp GTO at 3700lbs
and for the 4-banger its 230 hp at 2900lbs.

thats 11hp per pound for the GTO
thats 13hp per pound for the SRT-4

the SRT wins the power to weight ratio battle. Why anyone would doubt he won is beyond me. Only thing I can think of is that Bald Eagle mentality that V8s own all

because gto's run low 13's to high 12's with a good driver(the ones with 400hp) and consistant 13.5's

the FACT is stock for stock, there is no comparo. redneck just explained the tourque differences. it would be like killing a C5 vette. do you think a srt-4 can kill a c5 vette? obviously not with a equal race, but in street racing its never a equal race.



another thing to add. i'm not sure why you guys tend to use the best time the srt-4 ever got and use it as the base

that would be like me saying, vr4's run 13.1 and rednecks Z28 runs 13.0 as a base i think we can all say they run low 14's

[Drifty]

Originally Posted by Igovert500

Well either way nice kill. Drifty are you still stock? Sorry but I get the different srt4s on here confused sometimes.

Yep im still stock i've just adjusted suspension and gotten lighter better wheels with Wider tires.(a little better launch ability)

This isn't the 1st GTO ive raced before im on kill 3 for GTO's they are kinda hard to run into

Ohh yeah Gotian.. this isnt the 1st 400hp car ive beaten. so dont count me out by saying It must have been a bad driver I've SEEN BAD DRIVERS (go see my Vette story) and i know an OK driver, this was an OK driver. I had the luxury of meeting the guy today at work he shook my hand for being Brave to step up

SO AM I A VERY LUCKY GUY ??????? YES!!!!

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by -Jayson-

uhh also incase you guys dont know, torque wins races not HP, HP is derived from TQ and when you have a car with an extremly flat torque cruve like that GTO does, you get instant down low power. Its violent off the line, but top end they usually fall on there face.

this is true... but the dyno chart there kinda shows that the car doesnt fall off on top end, its power keeps increases until just before redline.

[Drifty]

Holy Crapola!!! it Chex!!! where you been homie?