Cold air intake

[jeverett]

Oh..to answer my own question...he used a bucket to make a heat shield.

[Slowprocess]

Originally Posted by jeverett

Oh..to answer my own question...he used a bucket to make a heat shield.

I never would have guessed that!!! How did it come out?

[jeverett]

Originally Posted by Slowprocess

I never would have guessed that!!! How did it come out?

Well besides being ugly as sin, and in the shape of a big horse shoe, it turned out pretty good I guess.
I really want y'all to see it. Maybe I can get a quick shot of it with my phone.

[masapell]

Originally Posted by jeverett

Well besides being ugly as sin, and in the shape of a big horse shoe, it turned out pretty good I guess.
I really want y'all to see it. Maybe I can get a quick shot of it with my phone.

I'd really like to see that!! Now I have done some "rigging" in my life, but that one really tops it.

My question is, as with all other setups with the cone-type filter, does it really seal out the hot air from the engine bay?

[Slowprocess]

Originally Posted by masapell

I'd really like to see that!! Now I have done some "rigging" in my life, but that one really tops it.

My question is, as with all other setups with the cone-type filter, does it really seal out the hot air from the engine bay?

The heat shield does a pretty good job of keeping the hot out. I see several guys wrapping their intake tubes with some type of insulation. They say it reflects heat away from the intake. I haven't personally tried it yet, so I can't comment from a first hand experience.

[masapell]

Originally Posted by Slowprocess

The heat shield does a pretty good job of keeping the hot out. I see several guys wrapping their intake tubes with some type of insulation. They say it reflects heat away from the intake. I haven't personally tried it yet, so I can't comment from a first hand experience.

After looking at some of the designs that use the open box, it doesn't look air-tight enough to keep it from sucking hot air from the engine bay. In addition, radiant heat looks like it would penetrate more so on the metal separator than on the enclosed boxes, like the Volant or factory box. It seems like insulation would be a good thing to keep out the radiant heat. Maybe I'm out-thinking the whole setup. (Actually, I'm here at work trying to waste time before I leave for home, SHHHHHH!)

[nineball481]

you would be surprised at how well metal keeps heat out. eg: look at your headers, if the are stock, they have a METAL heatshield. If you ever get a chance to see insultated duct work (in a house or building) it has a metallic outer layer. heat sinks, (though not based on the same priciples for cooling) are made mostly from metal.
As for how well these kits seal up to the hood.... well that might take someone setting up a camera to take a pic with the hood closed, to make a final determination....

[masapell]

Originally Posted by nineball481

you would be surprised at how well metal keeps heat out. eg: look at your headers, if the are stock, they have a METAL heatshield. If you ever get a chance to see insultated duct work (in a house or building) it has a metallic outer layer. heat sinks, (though not based on the same priciples for cooling) are made mostly from metal.
As for how well these kits seal up to the hood.... well that might take someone setting up a camera to take a pic with the hood closed, to make a final determination....

Thanks for the response. I have just often wondered about the cone type filters that are marketed as "cold-air" intakes. So, this is just me getting things straight in my head.

The heatshield on the manifold is there to help dissipate some of the heat from the manifold.
Metal air ducts are insulated, again is why I have wondered why the metal filter shield is not.
Metal heat sinks, again dissipate radiant heat from a source.

But again, I am wondering why the cone filter system is sold as a cold air system. The factory box is pulling outside air from the fender area, which to me seems cooler than the hot air in the engine bay. The Volant system has an extension that pulls air from the lower bumper, and I believe the Silverado SS has air intakes that are in the bumper. (correct me if I'm wrong on that) A sealed box, in my opinion, the best way to isolate cooler air.

That's what I love about forums like this. I try to discuss things like this with my wife, and she just looks at me and ignores me.

[BlenderWizard]

Originally Posted by masapell

Thanks for the response. I have just often wondered about the cone type filters that are marketed as "cold-air" intakes. So, this is just me getting things straight in my head.

The heatshield on the manifold is there to help dissipate some of the heat from the manifold.
Metal air ducts are insulated, again is why I have wondered why the metal filter shield is not.
Metal heat sinks, again dissipate radiant heat from a source.

But again, I am wondering why the cone filter system is sold as a cold air system. The factory box is pulling outside air from the fender area, which to me seems cooler than the hot air in the engine bay. The Volant system has an extension that pulls air from the lower bumper, and I believe the Silverado SS has air intakes that are in the bumper. (correct me if I'm wrong on that) A sealed box, in my opinion, the best way to isolate cooler air.

That's what I love about forums like this. I try to discuss things like this with my wife, and she just looks at me and ignores me.

When the hood is closed, the only place for aftermarket intakes (such as my K&N) to pull air from are the same spot in the fender and from down below the truck. When the hood is closed, the hood becomes the top of the box.

[masapell]

Thanks BlenderWizard!! I kind of figured that was how it worked. I think some insulation around the metal shroud would keep radiant heat from the engine. Ok, so I am going to get to work on the patent for that and sell it to all of you guys with the cone. Again, everyone, great input!

[chuck16]

The other thing to realize is that some cold air will get rammed in from around your headlights and turn signals. Not much mind you but some and if you really wanted to get carried away you could run a 1.5 pipe from where your toe hooks are up to where your Cone filter is. I've already notice a big difference in fuel economy switching to the CAI... Just gotta remember to keep my foot out of it.

[woodyh61]

the dealers and auto companies say adding any after market filter that uses and oil thig on it can void your warrenty. the only after market filter that does not use it that i know is AEM haven't put one on mine yet but will
2000 extcab 4X4 6.0 engine

[BlenderWizard]

Originally Posted by woodyh61

the dealers and auto companies say adding any after market filter that uses and oil thig on it can void your warrenty. the only after market filter that does not use it that i know is AEM haven't put one on mine yet but will
2000 extcab 4X4 6.0 engine

Aren't you out of your warranty period?

[PamzJoe]

The dealership I bought my truck from sells aftermarket air filters. K&N included.