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#17
08-07-2001, 11:14 PM
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actually, installing the front ones aren't a pain in the ass if you read the picture in the instructions correctly. it went in correctly the first time for me.
 any goof with some good metric sockets can do this job. I didnt even use a torque wrench and proud of it. hehe.  the biggest painin the ass is using the spring compressor. also never use an impact wrench on these TEIN kits.
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1998 Prelude SS - TEIN HA with upper pillows, SSR Integrals 17x7 with SP8000 (215/45), GReddy Evo catback, Iceman Comp Intake, DC Sports header, Apexi VAFC, ZEX 55 shot with bottle heater, NOS blanket, Factory Body Kit, Spoon F/R tower bars, JDM Foglamps, Carbon Fiber trim, Razo pedals &knobs, Fiamm Dual air horn Future Mods: Lighten car, 2nd 10lbs nitrous bottle would be nice too. 2001 G20 P11 AT- TEIN NA, TRM Snipers 17x7 with Potenza RE910 (215/45), Arospeed Dual-outlet Muffler, K&N Drop-in Airfilter, WW Front Lip, Nakamichi MB75 1DIN 6CD Changer/Receiver, FIAMM Dual Air horns, Levoc Pedals, PIAA (H4 Superwhite H3 Ion Crystal, 168 SuperWhite) 2002 WRX MT- TEIN HA's with upper pillow mounts, 1000Miglia HT3 17x7 with sumitomo HTR+ 225/45/17, painted side skirts, Cusco front & rear strut bar, Whiteline rear swaybar, aluminum endlinks, Blitz NUR Catback, HKS seq. BOV, factory front lip, rear valance, Kartboy short shifter and bushings. Future mods: dressup wheels with Potenza S03 225/45/17 tires, TurboXS UTec, maybe an uppipe. by then, it'll be fast enough.fiamm dual air horns. 
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#18
08-08-2001, 06:19 AM
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I really cant agree with you Ken.
The front suspension is a real pain to work with. Yes getting the strut in is no problem.. The problem comes when you need to put the bolts back through the upper link arms. Its a pain to line up and it doesnt want to budge.
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#19
08-08-2001, 07:27 AM
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Woow! You real amateur mechanics! Thanks for the tips!
Luke, I start to do the same thing with every new car owner would do, park real real far away. 
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#20
08-08-2001, 09:29 AM
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08-08-2001, 08:36 PM
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really? do the front 2 at the same time huh? damn, i just did it one by one and it was freaking tough to put in the front JIC...thanks for the tip Jas
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#23
08-09-2001, 08:34 AM
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Hehe, the first time I did my Teins I was doing one side at a time. Well the front was SO hard to line up I almost started crying.
 That is until I realized that the stupid swaybar was causing all my problems. I jacked up the other front wheel and it was no problem after that.
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#24
08-09-2001, 09:48 AM
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Yeah, after doing one front side, by the second I was exhausted and literally covered in sweat. I noticed the sway bar was causing some problems, so i loosened it a bit which helped.
...but now I know what to do next time 
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#25
08-12-2001, 01:52 PM
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Guys, now that you have convinced me to go with the Tien Type NA Suspension system. Could anyone describe the differences in performance and handling of the existing (2002 G20) stock suspension with that of the replacement Tien suspension system?
Will it be better at corners? or harsher? Frankly, I am satisfied with the stock suspension in terms of performance and handling, but I would like to lower it as well. Can someone please advice? thanks..... jIm
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#26
08-13-2001, 10:19 AM
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With the teins, you car will handle better. better shocks and springs provides more stablity during cornering and eliminates a good amount of bodyroll. the ride is stiffer than factory set up, this is the tradeoff of having better suspension (sat in a M3 lately?) however, because of the dampening adjustablity in the Teins, the ride is far from uncomfortable.
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#27
08-13-2001, 11:59 AM
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Luke,
Thanks for your reply. I did not want to install a $1100 suspension system that performs worst than the current stock. So there is always a trade-off? Cool. I can live with the harder ride. Not planning on doing long distance drive anyway. Cheers. jIm
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#28
08-16-2001, 11:17 AM
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Lowering P11
Am I the only one here that has a Ground Control kit for the P11 (www.ground-control.com)? I have it with the Koni shocks and it kicks ass also! The ride can be tuned to be quite close to stock. You can also really dump the car if you're into that. The handling improvement from stock is amazing, it eliminates brake dive and axle hop.
The price (GC/Koni) is similar to the TEIN setup but the Koni shocks can be rebuilt to different specs if you want. However, the Konis are not externally adjustable. Another advantage of the GC coilovers is that you can use it with different shocks if you change your mind later, for example GABs are externally adjustable. Also, you can easily swap out the GC springs for different rates or lengths.
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#29
08-16-2001, 12:13 PM
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The only gripe I have about the TEIN setup is the low spring rates. Then again I race my car at auto-x and sometimes an actual track. The GC's would be better if you do some casual motorsports as you can choose your rates. I've actually got my eye on that JIC Magic setup now. Damn you Luke!!!
If you just plan on lowering your car and driving on the street the TEIN is probably the best setup becuse it's a 'set it and forget it' kind of setup. If you're a real tweaker then get the GC's because the TEINS are a bitch to hieght adjust.
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#30
08-16-2001, 01:32 PM
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Yes, the Ground Controls can be height adjusted without taking apart the suspension. If you do shows or races you can dump your car real low and then bring it back up for street driving in a few minutes.
Sometime I hope to compare the TEIN with the GC, it should be interesting! I suspect the TEIN has a slightly better ride over big bumps because of its more progressively wound springs. Don M 99 G20t, 134 hp
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