no one has fixed this????

[rlith]

2 things I would look at. Frozen injectors (staying open too long at start since they're so cold, can you warm the truck in a garage overnight to see if it starts normally?)

Ignition module under the cap..(not the rotor but the actual ignition module)

[essten]

Originally Posted by Southern Comfort

I know this may sound crazy, but have you considered, water in your fuel lines or tank. Nearly all gas stations get water in the tank, not to mention the tank will form condensation due to temperture changes. It happened to my S10 ZR2 4x4. I have leraned to keep my fuel tank full
now. After removing the tank and draining the fuel lines, I haven't had that problem ever again. Just thought I'd try to help you with this problem. I hope it helps you with that problem. Southern Comfort

thanks buddy, its one of the 1st things i thought of but alas.....it didnt make a different. im actually about to leave for work and im gonna try the map sensor, i wont know untill tomorrow morning if it worked or not, if that doesnt work im goin to try the ect and if that doesnt work, then im lost. everything that has to do with fuel is new in this truck, also, everything that has to do with spark is new, but i do have another ecm from my old 94 s10 lt. does anyone think it would be worth a shot to try that if the 2 sensors dont work??

[essten]

Originally Posted by rlith

2 things I would look at. Frozen injectors (staying open too long at start since they're so cold, can you warm the truck in a garage overnight to see if it starts normally?)

Ignition module under the cap..(not the rotor but the actual ignition module)

the ignition module is new, and yes if i keep the truck in the garage it will start fine, but my injector is only 7 months old and it is the second one ive put in.

[essten]

Originally Posted by essten

the ignition module is new, and yes if i keep the truck in the garage it will start fine, but my injector is only 7 months old and it is the second one ive put in.

plus i had this problem with my old injector, reason being why i replaced it, but it didnt work.

[Cailen]

Is your EGR operating properly? Ie good flow (no carbon chunks), good seal, etc?

[essten]

Originally Posted by Cailen

Is your EGR operating properly? Ie good flow (no carbon chunks), good seal, etc?

egr valve is new, i also just replaced the map sensor last night, but that didnt fix it. i swear its somehow getting flooded, but it makes no sense....gettin flooded only in the cold. i tried to replace the ect sensor also last night(mind you it was like 20 degrees out) but the nut is like brass or somethin, and one side started to get rounded so i just left it alone. im gonna havta take a bunch of stuff off and get it from the bottom. here are the things ive replaced to try to fix this problem..... injector, egr valve, pcv valve, map sensor, fuel pump, fuel filter, sending unit, fuel pump relays, the sensor that goes into the rubber tube on the air intake thing (sorry, its really early, haha) i cant even remember, i have a list of stuff ive replaced on my truck downstairs cuz its imposible to remember what ive replaced, if you guys only knew, youd wonder why i still keep my truck. i need to take off the plenum and see if there is gas in it. thats how i figured out the problem when my inlet return lines were leaking, it did the same thing but all the time. when i put in the fuel filter i bent one end of the filter and im gonna replace that again in the hopes that maybe thats the problem, but i doubt it, seeins how so many other ppl have this problem. im not buyin a new truck. ive fixed everything on my truck and im not about to give up now. i just cant beleive that of all the listings of this problem online, no one has ever found a cure.

[rlith]

Originally Posted by essten

the ignition module is new, and yes if i keep the truck in the garage it will start fine, but my injector is only 7 months old and it is the second one ive put in.

Sounds like a sticky poppet nozzle(S). Whats happening is because it's getting so cold that one (or more) of them is not opening properly even under initial pressure. They eventually all open up and solve the problem.

2 Things I would do. 1st, run some seafoam through the system. (1/2 through the brake booster hose, 1/2 in the gas tank). Once that tank of gas is gone, then drop in some gasoline moisture removal with your next tank.

[essten]

Originally Posted by rlith

Sounds like a sticky poppet nozzle(S). Whats happening is because it's getting so cold that one (or more) of them is not opening properly even under initial pressure. They eventually all open up and solve the problem.

2 Things I would do. 1st, run some seafoam through the system. (1/2 through the brake booster hose, 1/2 in the gas tank). Once that tank of gas is gone, then drop in some gasoline moisture removal with your next tank.

ok, that sound fun... but i never heard of seafoam, and i dont get the brake booster hose part. if the nozzle or nozzles were sticking.... how come when i finally get it started it runs as if it has too much gas for a few seconds?

[Cailen]

I'd recommend taking out and cleaning every sensor attached to your intake plenum with paper towel + brake cleaner, as well as their gaskets. If the gaskets look wrinkled/cracked replace em. There's one in particular I'm thinking of (the one with the spring loaded plunger at the top of the plenum) but I can't recall its name. The TPS you can prolly not bother with. Then try changing your air filter.

[essten]

spring loaded plunger.....doesnt sound familiar, but ill look.this might be crazy but.... i stuck a thing under my gas pedal. im almost convinced that its getting flooded, but there is nothing leaking inside. so just for the heck of it i stuck a quart of transmission fluid under the gas pedal. ive become so desperate that im trying EVERYTHING!

[Snoopybase]

Have you checked your fuel pressure regulator? If the pressure is to high it will overcome the poppit vavle in your injectors and cause flooding. In colder temps. gas will not evaporate as fast as warmer weather making it harder to start.

[XPC2004]

mmmmm... Block heaters are a wonderous thing.

Up here in Canada, a car without a block heater is like a fish without water. Never had a problem parked for days in sub zero temps, blizzards, etc. COld wet, harsh, plug the block heater in, 1hr later, purrign like a kitten.

~XPC

[JIMMY92w]

Block heater
Oil pan heater
Battery blanket

Set it on a timer to come on 3 hours before you start it.

[jwy]

it could be your fuel regulator is bad

[essten]

i dont have a block heater.also my injector is new and the regulator is on the injector. this morning i tested the fuel pressure and it was fine, but heres what happened..... i turned the key on to see the fuel pressure, then i cranked it to see if it dropped or whatever, but it was fine. when i turn the key on the pump goes on for the 2 seconds, but....i left the key on for like 30 seconds, when i cranked it, it started right up. so at least maybe i found a way to get it started. but heres the other part...... when i shut the truck down, the fuel pump stayed on. i mean it stayed on like forever and wouldnt shut off, but once the car is warmed up, it shuts off when its supposed to. if i put the fuel gauge on the truck tonight, should it still be within spec tomorrow morning?