A very un-PC post… read if you're curious.

[Dinohunter]

I'll tell you why (this is going to the first post, I have not read the others yet.)

Males in our society, in our culture, still follow Pater familias where they are the boss and you have concede to what ever they want. A "control" gene has been found in the DNA of males with a extra Y chromosome, that actually has the controlling male figure implanted in them. They think that they can do whatever they want. Don't blame them, blame evolution. We did not have 5000 years ago. It evolved in us during the thousands of years of Roman rule in Europe. In fact, studies show that Italians have the smallest divorce rate. Why is this? They let boys be boys, and sleep around, go out on dates, etc. But its also because a person with the control gene is also a drunk, and is very physical, and it turns out 2 out of 4 italian men have it. So its incredibly widespread there, and in all of Europe.

Traditionally, because of the male dominance, women have not been allowed to sleep around. Some cultures don't even let them show their faces as religious tradition. So a lot of it does boil down to religion, comfort, and overall tradition. Men feel that when a women goes about as a "whore" shes taking the control from them, and she is. So they feel threatened, thus lashing out verbally, even physically at times. So you see where everything comes back to control issues. And this whole thing leads back to evolution, where when something is instilled upon you for generations and generations you are going to have it.

[Dinohunter]

Originally posted by JD@af
Oh man, I just typed out a response to this, and when I clicked the submit reply button, the computer could not find the server.. so the message was lost. Sorry, it has been a long day, and I lack the patience to retype it. I'll try to get back to this later.

When i do that, or I should say when "it" does that I hit back and its still there. Does that not happen for you?

[Moppie]

I think you'll find the low divorce rate in Italy has more to do with the strong Catholic following than anything else, quite simply getting a divorce is just not done.
However the rest of what you said makes perfect sence, (except for the genetic idea of male domince, I would like to see that proven).
Over the last 10-15,000 years of human civilastion it has been the men who have gone out and done the work, while the woman stayed home and had the kids. Any woman who slept around was going to have a: someone else kids, or b: kids with no male figure to surport them. This was of course reinforced by religious views in most cultures, and ingrained further into human behaviour.
However "times they are a changing", woman no longer have to stay home and raise the kids, and a single educated female is quite capable of holding down a well paying job, and rasing a child on her own. But this is something quite new to us as a species, and so it take time for us to react and change. It will happen, but it wont happen in the next year, or the next 10 years, if you look at how long it took to get ingrained then even if it takes another 50years, its an amazingly short time for the change to occur.

[Dinohunter]

I have been there 2 times in that past 5 years on digs in Rome and the wives let the men run wild...completely respect them in every way, but let them do whatever they want. You also have to remember, no other country in the world has grown like ours has in beliefs and culture, so Italy is in fact the "Old Country". And most likely will be for a few more generations.

[JD@af]

Originally posted by Dinohunter


When i do that, or I should say when "it" does that I hit back and its still there. Does that not happen for you?

Sadly, no; I hit the back button, and the message field was blank

[Moppie]

Originally posted by JD@af


Sadly, no; I hit the back button, and the message field was blank

Iv started doing a highlight and copy of my long relpys before posting after this heppened to me, but it only happend once, and I put the blame soly on MS.

[Jay!]

Originally posted by JD@af
Sadly, no; I hit the back button, and the message field was blank

Originally posted by Moppie
Iv started doing a highlight and copy of my long relpys before posting after this heppened to me, but it only happend once, and I put the blame soly on MS.

Grrr... I tried to post the same topic thread three times the other day, re-typing it each time, and three times it died! I never did finiish it. I'm gonna take a lesson from Moppie.