N2O vs TURBO vs SUPERCHARGED vs ALL MOTOR

[ShockJon]

every body has a diff opinion about when to shoot the N2O.... To be absolutly safe you are not supposed to spray in first gear and never under 3000RPM.... But I say thats hog wash.... I sprayed at 2500RPM and in first and had nothing but a incredible 60' time and my best ever time in the 1/8... and as for when does it hit... Ahhh the beauty of N2O... As soon as you push the button..... no spool up or any of that crap it is instant power......

[1320B4U]

So, you only hit it once. That makes me think the all motor or especially the turbo'd H22a would win, with full boost online at less than 3K rpm, every gear, every time, souds pretty much like it would win.

[ShockJon]

When I say hit the button I mean that when the button is on the N2O is on..... Which means that when you get traction in first spray.... Then let off between shifts, and spray until the finish line or 15sec which ever comes first...... Thats the beauty of N2O because there is ZERO lag.....

[1320B4U]

NOS might have a chance on the track, but compared to boost or NA on the street, it has no chance. LAG is pretty minimal.

[crazy151drinker]

Hmmmmmm well I would have to say that for regular street use a turbo would be better. When you use a lot of N2O you have to retard your timing. So when you not using the N20 the car has a little less power than normal. Also, if you want to mob around the hills your not going to be shifting back and forth with your N20. Turbos are perfect for constant performance!!! Also, with a turbo you could let a friend borrow the car without worrying that they would @#$@ up the N20 and grenade your car.
How do you plan on running your car at 10-1 compression and then adding 150hp shot?? If anything you should lower the compression to 8.5-1 and increase the shot. Think of it like a supercharger or turbo. If you keep the compression lower you can up the boost and make more power.
True, with todays fancy gizmos you can get run N20 and superchargers with high compression, but if your going through the bottom you might as well set it up for max power.
Just my opinions.......I had a big block Charger with N20. Did great smoke shows......

[A20A1]

It seems like you've made up your mind and have chosen the N2O route.

[ShockJon]

N2O likes compression more is better.... Its not turbo.... I have 8.8:1 now I want for a nitrous motor around 10:1 to 11:1 compression.... Or at least thats what the pros are telling me in my part of the country...

[c12azieazzvietz]

NITROUS IS THE SHIT!!!!!! You can't run out of nitrous if you have more then one bottle hooked up!! =Þ~~. you feel the power right when you hit that BUTTON!! but force induction is force induction!! Whatever comes first is what i would use!!

[CykoAccord]

I agree with the budget thing, although i'm new to cars but i know that n2o cost way less then turbo or supercharge.
But i heard that n2o is kinda cheating...
alot of ppl want n2o is because of Fast&Furious..
so i dunno..
in conclusion, if u want speed and low cost n2o is a great idea
but if u have the money, i'll go for turbo / supercharge

[pifhluk23]

So your car can go fast with nos, turbo, or supercharged. Take that crap off and race a car that is all motor and see what happens

[hybridsol]

a nitrous kit is the most practical of the three bolt-on kits also the most dangerous. The cost of a turbocharger or supercharger kit is quite a bit more, but you'll find that the power delivered from the turbo or supercharger is much more useable, especially for road racing. Here are some of the good and bad of each system. Performancewise, a nitrous bottle is excellent if you're drag racing and as long as your car is going straight when the nitrous kicks in. Most nitrous systems are designed to work when the throttle is wide open so a nitrous system is not something you'd want for road racing. Introducing nitrous during a turn can cause the back end of your car to want to swap places with the front end (AAAAA! spin out). For road-racing in my opinon Turbocharger is best A turbocharger is an air pump designed to operate on the normally wasted energy in the engine's exhaust system. The exhaust gases that would normally flow out of the tailpipe are instread routed through a turbocharger unit mounted adjacent to the engine. Inside the turbocharger are two back-to-back turbines. On the exhaust side, a turbine uses the exhaust gases flowing through it to spin. When the exhaust-side turbine spins, so does the other turbine, forcing air into the intake of the engine. The exhaust output controls how fast the turbine spins, so at slower revs the turbine spins more slowly-and forces less air into the intake of the engine. If the force of the exhaust gases is low enough, the turbo will barely spin, if at all. As the engine rpm increases, the turbine spins faster and forces more air into the engine's intake. This is why turbos tend to work better at higher rpm and why turbochargers experience what is called turbo lag(the delayed time it takes for the turbine to spool up). Some companies use twin turbo systems, which compensate for the low/high-end sacrifice by dedicating one turbo to each situation. A supercharger is much like a turbocharger, with the biggest differnce being that a supercharger is connected directly to the crankshaft with a belt. A supercharger is matched to an engine by its displacement and belt ratio. It can provide excess airflow at any engine speed. The concentrated charge of air provided by a supercharger results in a more powerful combustion stroke in the engine's cylinders, resulting in improved engine performance. A supercharger is a self-contained unit, while the turbocharger relies on the engine's exhaust system- and, often, an intercooling system- to function, although on a smaller engine take in mid that a supercharger is going to take a considerable amount of power away from your motor (like flipping on a big AC). A nitrous system is made up of just a few components. The biggest component is the nitrous bottle itself, which is generally(because of its size) located in the trunk of your car. The most common bottle is an aluminum tank with a 10-pound capacity. A high-pressure hose delivers the nitrous from the bottle to the rest of the system under the hood. Two solenoids control the nitrous and fuel. The nitrous ad fuel are still seperated from each other as they travel to the jets, which set the calibration for the whole system. The jets are typically small brass inserts that can be easily changed for tuning purposes. Once they've passed through the jets, the nitrous and fuel are introduced into the engine. There are numerous ways to introduce nitrous and fuel into the engine. The most common method uses a thin plate mounted atop ( or between the two halves of) the intake manifold. The plate has thin brass tubes that are paired together. One tube is positioned over the other, and the upper tube usually flows nitrous, leaving the lower one for fuel. The high velocity of the nitrous as it comes out of the tube helps atomize the fuel. The nitrous can be activated in many ways; it is usually controlled by a switch operated by the driver. Nothing makes it easier to dramatically increase the power output of an engine than a nitrous system does. although Nitrous oxide is the more dangerous and the most unhealthy to your motor of the the three power sources. my personal opinion on the three systems is turbo lag time is almost non exsistant if your using a smaller turbo and the power delievery is outstanding.

[skin to spend]

i vote naturally aspirated for myself i bought my car for a daily driver i have to drive in the sun which means high temperatures are bad and in the rain which means no big intercooler im saving for for an engine swap as it is now my car has 103 hp and top speed is over 110 stock for everythring but the muffler and rims it came with i only speed for fun but if someone challenges me i push and ive for some reason beaten an integra and a turbo POS mustang after the engine swap ill have 170 hp from the engine and then with doing all the simple things i hope to reach close to 200 with minimal risk enough power to give a all those civics with tons of mods engine envy

[wagsaccordsir]

All Motor Baby!

[aznxthuggie]

Originally Posted by ShockJon

When I say hit the button I mean that when the button is on the N2O is on..... Which means that when you get traction in first spray.... Then let off between shifts, and spray until the finish line or 15sec which ever comes first...... Thats the beauty of N2O because there is ZERO lag.....

if ur in first, u can be revving at 3k before u drop the clutch, so by then the turbo is already spooling, and the revs dont drop back down past 3k at every shift, so u always have the turbo going, and if ur guna use NOS in every gear u know that for a turbocharged car u can get a boost controller? any level of boost at any time? did you know that? there is turbo lag? yes but who the hell launches at below 3k rpm if ur really racing, if u feather the clutch instead of dropping the clutch it wouldn't matter if ur near the redline it would still catch and go fast, but there goes ur tranny...

still for me i would pick all motor, i try to pick an all motor way for any car i have

and it does seem like u have made ur choice, i mean we give u options, and u prove us wrong, so whats the point of us giving u options if ur so bent on NOS.. remember you also said "This time I am not going to argue... All I want is every body to vote and reply with your reason why" and what are u doing? HAH

[schmitey]

Granted I don't have any of these systems, and probably never will...I'm too damn cheap!

But here's my 2 cents anyways...

Supercharger robs horsepower to make horsepower. Unless you have a huge V8 or something with power to spare and displacement to take advantage it ain't worth it. From what I know you can't fine tune them either with boost controllers and stuff either, could be wrong.

Turbo doesn't really rob hp but it does have lag. Blessing and a curse depending on how you look at it. If you do agressive stop and go its gonna kill your gas mileage. As far as the lag, no good racer starts at idle so you should already have boost...that one doesn't take a genious to figure out.

NOS to me anyways just says, "I'm a pussy who doesn't know dick about cars but I want to be cool." Granted there's a HUGE difference between a starter package with like a 5 lb. bottle and a professional fogger system. However it is stolen horsepower as far as I'm concerned. An car's horsepower should be a car's horsepower. I don't want to hear "my car has 400 hp...with NOS." Well the other 99% of the time you don't have dick!

Enough said...'cuz I'm mad now. I hate the internet! All these awesome mods for my car...and no damn money. Shit I don't even own the car yet...F'ing deer just had to jump in front of my ride LOL.