is it a deal??

[Altimas]

Er strong usally refers to torque, atleast in my dictonary.
In that case you'd want an engine that has lots of low end torque, but not alot of HP.
torque is what you feel you feel when you accerate.
For off the line performance torque is king.. area under the HP curve++.
A good example of an engine that has lots of torque but not alot of HP is the stock 5.0 mustang and the older 4.6 sohc mustangs.
Both rated actually around the same.. 215 was the final rating for the 5.0 when they switched to the 4.6 SOHC which was rated at 225HP.
In earlier years the 5.0 was rated at 225
5.0= 300 pound feet of torque, 4.6= 285~ (but at higher rpm..)
As you can see, both v8s produce alot more torque than HP

[Schister66]

I would do what i did and find an Integra GS-R....i don' t know what your budget is, but that might not fit. Those cars have good potential and are fairly quick stock.

I would get a DSM, but as someone already jokingly pointed out, they kinda break a lot. They can teach you how to fix things, but i'd rather have a reliable car.....

[desii]

yeah, i dont know. im accuatly starting to look at honda civics that are stick shift. im find them a lot more cheaper with less miles. problem is they sell a lot faster. my question was, if you where 16, how many miles would want you honda to have (idealy over 120k?) my sister keeps telling me not to buy anything over 100k miles beacuse theyll break down and its not good and not worth the money..but there hondas, shouldnt they last long? and how many miles can i accuatly put on them in 4 years...what do you guys think??

oh and my budget is around 4500. i have to worry about insurance too but i want a 2door but if i find a 4door stick that would be pretty good