RSX Type S vs. Integra Type R

[mmont0]

The cobalt SS would be another car to consider in this price range. It seems to be quite the fast car stock and can probably take the typeR.

Your best bet would be with an SRT-4 though. With minor mods you can crank out quite a few more HP.

[crazy_canuck]

The SRT-4, especially the SRT-4 ACR, is a great platform for modding. And the 06 WRX is a great deal.

[92teggsr]

back to the original topic....after all the question was what's faster a type-R or a RSX Type S. I've driven both cars back to back and i've seen them run at the track with my own eyes and the type R is faster any way you look at it. Not by a whole lot but by enough. I usually see people in stock rsx typeS's run mid 15's. I know their capable of 15 flats but this is average. I see the average type R run about 14.7-14.8. and i've seen them run as fast as 14.5 bone stock with a very good driver.

[crazy_canuck]

Yeah, the Type R is a bit better in straightline, cornering and braking.

[daveersx-s]

Originally Posted by RedCavalierRacer

Alright guys, try to get rid of your biasness towards the RSX and tell me because my buddy thinks he can Smoke anyone with his Type R with a massive intake and exhaust. I said no. and he told me to pick a car in the same price range. Well i picked this one considering they have about the same HP. So tell me, which would win the Quarter mile??

The rsx-s is faster!

Type-r:
195 hp
129 pounds of torque

Type-s:
200 hp
143 pounds pf torque

So even if the driver of the rsx-s he's a douche, the rsx-s should win without a doubt!

[crazy_canuck]

Yes, because peak horsepower and torque are the only variables in a race.


Where's the mega-rolleyes smilie when I need it?




What about weight? Gearing? Differential? Tires? Unsprung weight? Power delivery? Toruqe curve?

That's why even though the ITR has less peak HP and TQ it is still faster.

[RSX-S777]

Elementary search engine figures kick ass. Seems pretty open and shut to me. Consider yourselves schooled.

daveersx-s- also: remember it's i-VTECKH vs. plain old VTECKH. The "i" makes all the difference...oui?

[daveersx-s]

Originally Posted by crazy_canuck

Yes, because peak horsepower and torque are the only variables in a race.


Where's the mega-rolleyes smilie when I need it?




What about weight? Gearing? Differential? Tires? Unsprung weight? Power delivery? Toruqe curve?

That's why even though the ITR has less peak HP and TQ it is still faster.

Im not going to pretend i know better than you, but if were talking about the weight of the car the type-s is 1250 kg and the type-r 1200 kg. Could this make the type-r faster, i don't think so?

[lamehonda]

What about gearing, traction, powerband............ Like Canuck said, Hp numbers don't mean much.

The type-r isn't really a fast car, but I hear that it is a blast to drive at the track and would run circles around the type-s in the twisties. That's all I care about.

[crazy_canuck]

The Type R is slightly lighter, but thats not the main advatange it has over the RSX. The Type R has much better tires than the RSX, it has a limited slip differential (as opposed to the open diff. in the RSX) and it has better gearing.

[iVteC_PoWeR]

Originally Posted by daveersx-s

The rsx-s is faster!

Type-r:
195 hp
129 pounds of torque

Type-s:
200 hp
143 pounds pf torque

So even if the driver of the rsx-s he's a douche, the rsx-s should win without a doubt!

Why would you base what would win just off of the numbers they put out? Type R has shorter gearing and LSD and it is a little lighter...can the rsx-s 5hp advantage it has on the Type R be enough to win it? Yes the rsx-s has more torque but what about the torque curve? its not what car puts out better numbers its WHERE they put out those numbers...

[daveersx-s]

Originally Posted by iVteC_PoWeR

Why would you base what would win just off of the numbers they put out? Type R has shorter gearing and LSD and it is a little lighter...can the rsx-s 5hp advantage it has on the Type R be enough to win it? Yes the rsx-s has more torque but what about the torque curve? its not what car puts out better numbers its WHERE they put out those numbers...

To be honnest, i never raced a type-r and i don't know about the torque curve! I have to admit, you guys seems to know better than me and i hope youll teach me! But guys, 15 lbs of torque should make a good difference, even if it's only numbers??

[RSX-S777]

Torque does make a difference. But when you factor in other things that small advantage is all but negated. You have to look at the big picture.

[mmont0]

Another factor was that the Type-R was built without any insulation to make the car as light as possible. The other factors canuk listed are another reason to take the TypeR over the TypeS. I just wish they had put an LSD in the TypeS from the beginning!

ivtec is also correct. You have to look at the torque and HP curves to see the kind of output the engine makes. For instance, the TypeR might have a lower peak torque, but if it reaches its peak faster than the TypeS and maintains the peak throughout the band, then it will be quicker. I doubt this is the case since the TypeS has an almost flat torque curve.

I'm sure if you make some slight mods with the TypeS, you could make it faster than the TypeR. I must admit that after putting on new rims and tires, the handling is much improved.

Stock for stock, the TypeR is best.

[daveersx-s]

Originally Posted by mmont0

Another factor was that the Type-R was built without any insulation to make the car as light as possible. The other factors canuk listed are another reason to take the TypeR over the TypeS. I just wish they had put an LSD in the TypeS from the beginning!

ivtec is also correct. You have to look at the torque and HP curves to see the kind of output the engine makes. For instance, the TypeR might have a lower peak torque, but if it reaches its peak faster than the TypeS and maintains the peak throughout the band, then it will be quicker. I doubt this is the case since the TypeS has an almost flat torque curve.

I'm sure if you make some slight mods with the TypeS, you could make it faster than the TypeR. I must admit that after putting on new rims and tires, the handling is much improved.

Stock for stock, the TypeR is best.

What is a LSD???