how reliable our eagle talons in the higher mileages?

[caniborrow50cnts]

ebay.com only if they are close or autotrader.com, but its a good idea to look for the ones that list the VIN and lots of details. I've looked at many cars that only list color, model, and price and they have all been crap. The more details, the better it is.

[Black97GST]

yeah, be very careful with ebay, make sure you are close enough to go take a look at it.

[tsipsi20]

Originally Posted by caniborrow50cnts

i agree...many parts in that car are going to be pretty worn...cv axles, o2 sensors, all filters, timing belt. Double check the expensive parts atleast, if you think its worth it though, by all means go for it, but you should expect to replace about 200 in parts within the next month.

Originally Posted by caniborrow50cnts

im so proud of you for buying the perfect car tsipsi. your such a great car enthusiast. if i had known you bought a talon, i would have praised you for buying such an awesome car...dumbass.

There is a reason talons arent made anymore...the majority of them are crap! I should know, i owned one only because it was given to me. My parents bought it new in 91 for $17k and spent about $25k fixing the ecu, valves, timing belt, piston rings, and the transmission 6 times. This was before they gave me the car with 61k miles on it in 2003 and the timing belt broke after 12k more miles, at the same time when the cv axle broke and smashed a hole in the tranny. I replaced the engine and tranny myself for about $750 and drove it for another year til i saved enought money to by my 97 eclipse and sold that talon the first chance I got.

Since its hard to tell when someone has typed sarcastically, i am going to tell you straight up that "most" cars with that many miles need parts replaced soon after buying them. Im glad you have an indestructable car. Even if a car is babied for 10 years no matter what kind it is, some parts break down from weathering too not hot rodding all the time.

As I said to gforce811, " if you think its worth it though, by all means go for it," If he wants to pay asking price like you did, do it. I was suggesting a buying technique that would save him money where you make the seller think the value of the car is less than they are asking. But thanks for your concern tsipsi, I will be sure to ignore all future dumbass posts from you.

Okay let's take a look here. CV axles I can agree with. All filters? Maybe if it was your car you wouldn't bother with routine maintenance, but the majority of people that care about their cars will have replaced at least a few filters. Timing belt? Yes, I can agree with that. But once again, routine maintenance covers these. I'm sorry your parents were probably dumbasses and didn't bother to ever change their timing belt. Therefore the bent valves are their own fault. 200 parts? Then you obviously could not drive your car to break that much shit. I never said my car was indestructable, I simply stated that you're full of shit. Especially the six transmission thing hahah! I doubt your parents were modding their car, therefore, there's no reason you'd go through 6 transmissions unless you obviously can't drive, or notice that your CV axle is going "click click"! No wonder it snapped dumbass. ROUTINE MAINTENANCE! I can't believe you posted this many times and actually got away with your unbelievably useless information.

On another note, this is not an eagle talon forum. It's an eagle/talon/laser forum. If you haven't noticed lately, they're the same car, minus body work. I'm glad you sold your talon to get and eclipse... that makes a whole lot of sense!

[tr10av]

Originally Posted by caniborrow50cnts

There is a reason talons arent made anymore...the majority of them are crap! I should know, i owned one only because it was given to me. My parents bought it new in 91 for $17k and spent about $25k fixing the ecu, valves, timing belt, piston rings, and the transmission 6 times. This was before they gave me the car with 61k miles on it in 2003 and the timing belt broke after 12k more miles, at the same time when the cv axle broke and smashed a hole in the tranny. I replaced the engine and tranny myself for about $750 and drove it for another year til i saved enought money to by my 97 eclipse and sold that talon the first chance I got.

I doubt the transmission has been done 5 times, but it could have been. Obviously some cars are going to break down. Not every part is made equal. Sometimes you just have a bad car. It's like a house, sometimes your wood is warped, your foundation cracks, your roof leaks. One bad apple out of the bunch. I'm sure someone has had an Eclipse that has broken down just like the Talon you had did.

[scottsee]

When I bought my 96 GSX 2 years ago with 112K I took it to the local Mitsu Dealer and had them do a used vehical inspection. Cost me $75 and I got a work order that had the part #'s, item discription and hours involved with replacment.

Ask them what they perform on a used vehical inspection. You can request anything you want. I did my own Compression test becasue they charged $50 extra to do it.

I would be overly causious about a "freeway" 150k+ DSM. Everyone says that. I, personaly wouldn't buy it for more then $1500. But, thats becasue i bought mine for 3500

[tsipsi20]

Originally Posted by scottsee

When I bought my 96 GSX 2 years ago with 112K I took it to the local Mitsu Dealer and had them do a used vehical inspection. Cost me $75 and I got a work order that had the part #'s, item discription and hours involved with replacment.

Ask them what they perform on a used vehical inspection. You can request anything you want. I did my own Compression test becasue they charged $50 extra to do it.

I would be overly causious about a "freeway" 150k+ DSM. Everyone says that. I, personaly wouldn't buy it for more then $1500. But, thats becasue i bought mine for 3500

I agree with Scottsee, I'd take it to a garage and just have them look it over. Usually when the owner sees hard evidence that something needs replaced, they drop the price, so get the garage to do a full inspection. Another thing, as scottsee said, the only true way to know engine health is to do a compression test. You can pick up the guage at autozone for $25 bucks and it's really easy to do... Also, from the advice of others on this forum, if you get an eclipse, same year, same mileage, it's probably gonna be a hell of a lot better cause talons are "crap" and everything breaks on them...

P.S. My post above was supposed to state "eclipse/talon/laser". But i was quickly writing it 2 minutes before class.

[caniborrow50cnts]

I am well aware that all the eclipses, talons, and lasers were the same...In fact, they were all made in the same exact factory in Normal, Illnois, where the employees worked in rotation to make their own company's cars. For some reason though, the eagle employees were dumbasses, just like tsipsi. I know not all cars are perfect off the assembly line, but Eagle talons from 90-94 had a high number of lemons. The main reason for the problems with them was the transmission which was made by chrysler who owned the american motors company who produces the eagle line of vehicles. The FWD automatic transmission is the main one with the problems, like the one I had, but its not like my parents could have known this in 91. There is a valve that pressurizes the fluid, which would sometimes stop working causing it to get stuck in a particular gear, like mine did twice. Also, the overdrive was commonly going out in many of chrysler's transmissions made about the same time. As for the timing belt, it is recommended to be changed at 60k miles. Both belts were replaced at the dealer at 25k and 49k miles because they said they were very worn both times, and I saw how bad they were. It wasn't the main belt that broke when I had it, but the balance shaft belt did get caught in the gears. I did also notice the "click click" because I did change the axles 8 months before that incident. Why it broke? I don't know. I was able to get another free one (how nice). They wouldn't pay for the damages it caused since it says right on the receipt "Not responsible for coincidental damages." It is unlikely that my parents' "bad driving" caused the ecu to stop working. I guess you have alot of hate towards your parents, because you take it out of everybody elses. Lets see. My mom had one accident in 30 years, which wasn't her fault. I was in the car too. That accident is the reason we got the talon in the first place. My dad told me he has had 2 speeding tickets since 1978. Such bad drivers! That car was very well taken care of. My mom is the main one that drove it and she treated it like it was her baby. Why else do you think she would spend so much to keep it running? I said check the filters too because most people have a tendency to neglect the air, fuel, and transmission filters. Thats $40 just for all of those. Most people are good about changing the plugs and wires though. One last note: I did notice this is an eclipse/talon/laser forum. If you notice my sig, you will see that I still have 2 eclipses, which is my reason for searching through these forums. If anyone has noticed in a seperate forum, I am looking for a cv axle for my 99 eclipse. I should tell tsipsi that I am not currently driving it because of the "click click" even though it has only 40k miles on it and its clicking. It only started clicking because something ripped a hole in the boot and it is very noticeable. My 97 eclipse has 128k miles on it and the original axles. In the past year, I have replaced both O2 sensors, the plugs, and both heater hoses. There is my ROUTINE MAINTENANCE! dumbass

[ted_ex]

Is this real? The cars engines are EXACTLY the same!! There is a difference from turbo and non-turbo, but not between the talon eclipse and laser. And you should both learn to read, one of you is saying $200 in parts and the other is saying 200 parts. As in quantity. Good god, if you really think there is a difference in the cars reliability because of the name on it you are wrong. And for the original poster, keep in mind that turbo cars in general are going to be higher maintence then a non-turbo. That's a lot of miles and I would get a used car inspection by a mechanic before you buy the car. That seems like a lot of money for that high mileage.

[tsipsi20]

Originally Posted by ted_ex

Is this real? The cars engines are EXACTLY the same!! There is a difference from turbo and non-turbo, but not between the talon eclipse and laser. And you should both learn to read, one of you is saying $200 in parts and the other is saying 200 parts. As in quantity. Good god, if you really think there is a difference in the cars reliability because of the name on it you are wrong. And for the original poster, keep in mind that turbo cars in general are going to be higher maintence then a non-turbo. That's a lot of miles and I would get a used car inspection by a mechanic before you buy the car. That seems like a lot of money for that high mileage.

This is exactly what I was trying to state from square 1, that eclipses, talons, and lasers are exactly the same. I posted a sarcastic remark above about buying an eclipse with the same milage, etc., only because the "50 cents" kid kept pushing the idea that eclipses were better. I want to note my fault in seeing "200 in parts" as "200 parts". That was my fault from the start, but the following posts about "6 transmissions, etc" is what started to make this post become some 16 yr. old bullshit story about someone trying to sound cool.

Personally, I want to apologize to the person who originally posted because I think his forum ended up just being our fight. But I personally don't want to keep this going because the more he writes, the more he just makes less sense. Case and point ---> "The talon employees". Somehow, none of them knew what they were doing, only the eclipse employees did. I don't care about his car, or why talons suck and eclipses are better, and for the record, my car isn't indestructable, but certainly did not need $200. But that's just me, all cars are different.
Good luck with your car, and don't let a few DSM'ers opinions on talons discourage your decision. They're all the same, maintenance and care is what distinguishes at bad car from a good car. This is my last post! So, "50 cent" if you have any more to say, then PM me, cause this post wasn't set up for us to fight.