leaf blower=hp... shocking...

[supervisor1886]

no
What I mean is that car builders should look at alternative ways to solve their perfomance issues.


For example: why upgrate something the way we do it now. GM could live some space under the hood to put another engine in as if it was a module that would couple t the existing one. Those rotary engines are cool and you can stuck 1, 2 or maybe 3 or even run only 1 engine out of them three when needed

Do you guys remember those 6 cylinder marcedes concepts that could disengage 2 cylinders while driving on a highway? (in the 90's)The technology was there but still not very practical.

I personally have seen old MAN trucks with two engines in them (custom fit) 800hp and almost 1600 pounds of torque.

[supervisor1886]

The lil ass fun is cool too but just insignificant. But if you spin it at 20000 rpm in will just do. Right?

[drumcat]

Yeah dropping cylinders to improve gas mileage is still common today, those new gay ass magnum's chargers and 300c's use it

[supervisor1886]

I think that Germans and Swidish guys will make a difference here. It seems that GM mostly works on the same old concepts using same old ass parts.
It maybe was right to dig up a grave for the camaro.
Now what Gm gives us is the Ls7. Thats it, nothing new. Its been 20 years to go from the greatest TPI to the Ls7. Lame. And what happened to the Lt5 motor?

I dont wanna talk about that mustang 05 crap or the slow ass death-trap SMART car and hybrids, new v8 Impalas and GTOs. Are we suppose to stick to that for another 10 years? Its 5 years past 2yk and we drive same old small block.
Imagine, its 2015 and GM comes out with all new Ls 45 v8 small block while I am driving my 305TPI. Finally I want my 10 speed gear box!

[supervisor1886]

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[supervisor1886]

{Yeah dropping cylinders to improve gas mileage is still common today, those new gay ass magnum's chargers and 300c's use it}


Its because they use Maibach trannies and some of Daimler technology.

[ct91rs]

If you want to talk lame, why not hit up the internal combustion engine itself. It's been around for over 100 years, and it's only about 20% efficient.

[Matt365]

lets find an old scrapped up f 18 fighter, take its jet engine, strap it to a 3rd gen f body, poor ever-clear in the gas tank, and time its 0 to 600.

[supervisor1886]

I like gas turbines from helicopters. Not too efficient either

[89IROC&RS]

wow, alot of great ideas going on, but youll find when you actually try turning those ideas into reality, that the real world is a bit tougher. lets run down the list shall we....

mounting a second engine in the car to drive a turbo or supercharger is excessivly complex, leads to parts failure, higher maintanence and decreases fuel economy two fold. first there is fuel to run the second engine, and second the boost on the main engine requires more fuel to keep from leaning out, not exactly smart with todays gas prices. superchargers do sap power, but turbos increase on exhaust backpressure is negligable. so if you really wanna try that idea, feel free.

as to the concept of an engine supercharging itself, how do you think a supercharger works????? and supercharging a supercharger, um..... ok, you certainly wouldnt be the first, although most people combine superchargers and turbos, but really its only good for the uniquenss value, for raw performance youd be better off with a single turbo or supercharger.

as far as driving all the power accessories off a second engine, its a somewhat valid idea, however youd find that youd wind up again spending far more in gas than would make the minor increase in power worth the trouble.

the turbo deisle is about the best idea i saw there, having again already been done (whoda guessed)

you cant supercharge a hydrogen fuel cell car, do some research....

as far as turbocharging a hybrid/electric, you could probly do it, but it would depend on the mounting location, electric motors tend to dislike lots of heat which happens to be a by product of turbos, a supercharger would work, but again both of these add air, which requires more fuel, which leads to worse gas mileage, not to mention the added power would really only apply to off the line where the electric motor kicks in which might lead to complications. of that im not entirely sure.

also, nowadays GM has displacement on demand for many of its vehicles, including caddy, chevy, GMC, and others, lots of big SUV,s and trucks will be getting it too if they dont already have it.

you have to understand, that when it comes to making cars, there are real world requirements, you have to create a practical application of known technology within given constraints of cost, materials, and safty. If the major companys have not done something, there is usually a reason for it.

gas turbines are great, but only at a constant speed, they react very poorly to changes in speed and are very gas thirsty.

as for the development of the engine, the past 15 years have been awesome. the small block survived relitivly unchanged from 1955 to 1985, thats 30 years, then we got TPI on a small block, then from 1993 to 2005 we got the LT1, LT4, LT5, the LS1, and the LS2 leading up to the LS7. and thats only the small block baised V8's of 350cid. lets not get started on the four and six and five cylender engines.

Im sorry i dont mean to come down on you really hard, but when you start shooting off about things and saying im gonna patent this and patent that, when you really dont seem to have a clue what you are talking about, i feel the need to say something.

as to the blower, id like to point out that the cars tested still had the factory intake ducting, and the power improovments were pretty much on par with what a cold air induction kit would give you. they didnt boost the engine at all, they just gave it a steady stream of cold air.

[Earlsfat]

holy mother of god! Iroc you must exercise your fingers to be able to post like that on a regular basis!!!

What I was wondering is if you're on a REAL budget and can't afford a leaf blower.... would like a bunch of hair dryers work???

[drvngstorm05]

i truly got a huge laugh outta that movie, it wasn't supposed to turn into a discussion LOL. oh well there's nothin wrong w/ throwin out ideas, but as its been said a million time, a fan doesn't compress air so all it does is make fast moving air... doesn't actually create boost. yes it can create horsepower, but there is no way that it will ever be as effiecient as our current forced induction techniques...

[Earlsfat]

Originally Posted by ct91rs

If you want to talk lame, why not hit up the internal combustion engine itself. It's been around for over 100 years, and it's only about 20% efficient.

What's the efficiency level of the human brain? And we've been around for thousands of years... I think we're up to like, what was it, 15% or something ridiculous.

[Rally Sport]

Damn Erik, make everyone feel stupid

Jim about those hairdryers.. sounds like a good idea but wouldnt work as the HP increase that they'd bring if ANY would be decreased because they eventually put out HOT AIR and we all already know that isnt good.

[Earlsfat]

Originally Posted by Rally Sport 92

Damn Erik, make everyone feel stupid

Jim about those hairdryers.. sounds like a good idea but wouldnt work as the HP increase that they'd bring if ANY would be decreased because they eventually put out HOT AIR and we all already know that isnt good.

- I thought I was onto something. I guess the old 'fart into the intake' won't work either, huh? I was thinking of having my hood redone into a seat for earl... complete with a brussels sprouts bowl.