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#16
05-11-2002, 07:53 PM
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#18
05-12-2002, 02:41 PM
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I can't imagine the corners being that bad. It is a highway isn't it? So I'd imagine it's intended for speeds of at least 60MPH.
Have any of you guys driven it?
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05-12-2002, 05:02 PM
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Well, it's not a interstate-like freeway. It's more of a local highway route, and they can get pretty twisty. I haven't driven it yet, but I will in a couple weeks when I'm done with my suspension work.
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#20
06-10-2002, 03:05 PM
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where is Hwy 33 anyways? Ever driven Angeles Crest Kaneto? If you havent...i have some buddies who would love to bring you for a ride through there...they drive crx's and civic's too and take it at 70mph as a morning cruise. If you are up to it this upcoming weekend...since im gonna be down in LA ...i can intoduce you to them...well...i wouldnt be attending though...hehe...still trying to get used to my integra
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#21
06-14-2002, 01:31 PM
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I'd be down to mob down there and I am from Napa (50 mi north of SF) but I would need to get some people to roll with me, (me being only 17 and parents may be an issue)
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#22
06-14-2002, 01:35 PM
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I'm going to start a roll call thread on Sunday, after I have the final route details worked out. You should then be able to see who's coming from where, and find some people to roll down with.
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#23
06-16-2002, 05:19 AM
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Going to post this both here and at PH.
Okay, drove almost the entire route today. Just got back... it was a very long day. I'll include final meet plans/schedule, and driving impressions (short and long version). Meet Info Okay, we're going to meet at Frazier Park. The Frazier Park exit is a few miles south of Grapevine, and a few miles north of Pyramid lake. We will be gathering in the parkinglot for the Flying J gas station. I picked out a spot that should, hopefully, have a decent number of parking spots for us. Planned meet time at this location will be 11 : 00am-1 : 00pm. This will give a couple hours for latecomers and what-not, and will allow us to hopefully grab a bite to eat (selection is not great there, though). It took me approx 3.5 hours to get there from SD (not including an hour stop in Irvine for lunch). This was with a considerable amount of LA traffic. I figure it would take 3-4 hours from San Diego, 1-2 hours from points around LA and Orange Counties, 4-5 hours from the Bay Area. Obviously there's going to be very little traffic coming down the 5 from NorCal. At around 1 : 00pm, we will roll out toward Wheeler Canyon. I covered the entire route in just under 2 hours, but I would up pushing myself more than I thought I would. I think this stretch would take us max 3 hours. Read my impressions below for more info. We should arrive in the Ventura area between 3 : 00 and 4 : 00pm. I was not able to find a decent spot to stop between there and the Convention Center. From Ventura it's roughly 1.5-2 hours (depending on traffic, or course) to the LA Convention Center. Basically we just need to decide if we'll want to stop at another spot to chat and maybe get some dinner, or just roll straight to the show. From Whenever we get there to Whenever we decide to leave, Hot Import Nights. From Whenever we leave HIN to the next day, I'm getting a hotel room or two, and people are welcome to party and crash there after the show. I'm scoping out a few hotels in the area, I'll have more info when I get a feel of how many people are coming. Driving Impressions Short Version Oh.... my.... fucking... god!!  Long version I have never had so much fun behind the wheel of a car in my life. As you come off the freeway, the road into Frazier Park is long, fairly straight, and mostly uneventful. A couple small towns border the road. Once you get into the park area, everything changes though. I had the misfortune of being behind a couple slow SUVs. There are a few curves that you go through which I would consider to be "warm-up" curves. I made a risky pass around one SUV on the inside of one of these curves. A van in front of us pulled off halfway, and the final SUV in front of me moved over for me to pass at the end of the warm-up. Basically, I dived straight into the action, which started with a set of tight switchbacks. From there, it's mostly a blur. This route just has the most incredible variety of driving challenges. Off-camber curves, short and medium straights, curves that tighten deceptively midway through, long sweepers, crests that hide challanging corners, even narrow tunnels. The first and second parts of the course takes you along the ridgeline of a canyon and through a set of mild hills and valleys. There are some points where the drop-off into the canyon is mere inches from the roadway. The third part, when you get onto Hwy 33 consists of a couple long straights. We'll probably stop somewhere along this part to regroup, chat, take some pics. The fourth part basically winds through Wheeler Canyon. The road and the scenery is absolutely incredible. Words just can't describe them. I did take a few pics, but I can't find the adapter for my digi cam. I'll post them up as soon as I can. I didn't take nearly as many as I had planned, however. I was simply having too much fun driving. Honestly, if you consider yourself a car and driving enthusiast, I can't see how you can afford not make this trip. Between the chance to meet and talk with people who share the same passion, and the chance to drive some of the most incredible roadway you will ever see, there should be very little that can keep you from coming. I know that nothing short of an act of God or family tragedy will keep me from going. You don't have to push yourself if you don't want to. In fact, unless you're supremely confident in your driving ability and the condition of your suspension, I would recommend that you don't push yourself. The route can be very tricky in places. If you just want to make a leisurely drive of it, then I would say definitely go for it. I am going to be leading the pack through the route. My friend, who came up with me this weekend, will be at the tail-end. We're both going to have Motorola 2-way radios so we'll be communicating the whole way through. I know he's not really going to push his car... its stock suspension is not really capable of handling too much. My car, on the other hand, has a suspension that's worth more than the car itself. Those who want to really make a run of it, will be able to. Those who just want to cruise, they can do that too. We'll be regrouping at a couple spots along the route, so nobody will get left behind. Basically, we're all there for the fun of it. No matter who you are, what you drive, or how you want to drive it... if you come, I guarantee you will have a lot of fun. Last edited by Kaneto; 06-16-2002 at 03:49 PM.
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#24
06-16-2002, 04:42 PM
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Okay, some pics...
The initial meet spot.  Shot of the canyon from the side of the road. That little grass patch in the foreground is about a foot and a half wide, and it's all that seperates the road from the canyon edge.  A curve  My rex and my friend Jason, on a turnout after one of the curves.  While we were at the turnout, a couple bikes passed us. A few minutes later I pulled back onto the road, and it wasn't long before I had caught up to one of the bikes. They both pulled off onto a turnout and I passed them, and never saw them again.
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#25
06-20-2002, 01:47 PM
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I signed up on ph as well. But I am up for the trip.
I didnt catch if this was covered at all. But what about hotels, rooms, etc. Are there places to get a group rate, or are we on our own?
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#27
06-27-2002, 07:48 PM
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Kaneto:
Love reading your descriptions of the canyon. The freeways down in SD are cool to drive (810?), and that bridge that goes out to that island/miliary base. Crazy. We've been known to drive down there just to cross that bridge, turn around, and drive home. The stretches of HWY1 from HB to south of Laguna are nice too, best at night when the traffic is lighter. But this Wheeler canyon sounds crazy, 3 hours of pure driving bliss... Are you bringing your CRX?
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