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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

those supercharged cobalts are only rated at 205 hp from the factory. is your car modded at all?
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those supercharged cobalts are only rated at 205 hp from the factory. is your car modded at all?
Don't you know that Chevy underates all of their cars, and every single car they make has 200 more HP than they say, and is capable of low mid/low 13s?
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

Nice, race, get some shit done to your car. It doesn't have 250, but it's still capable of walking those V6 Eclipses.
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

2005 Cobalt's have 205HP and run 14.9. The v6 Eclipse should be around 15.2-15.3. That does not lead to 2 bus lengths in 10 seconds unless they were 400lb passengers...each and the driver sucked ballz.

And aren't the Cobalts basically a supercharged cavelier anyways?
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Re: Re: Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

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Don't you know that Chevy underates all of their cars, and every single car they make has 200 more HP than they say, and is capable of low mid/low 13s?
, that seems to be the case according to many GM owners nowadays.
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Re: Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

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2005 Cobalt's have 205HP and run 14.9. The v6 Eclipse should be around 15.2-15.3. That does not lead to 2 bus lengths in 10 seconds unless they were 400lb passengers...each and the driver sucked ballz.

And aren't the Cobalts basically a supercharged cavelier anyways?
no the cobalt is based on the delta platform of the ION redline as is basically a ion redline version 2
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no the cobalt is based on the delta platform of the ION redline as is basically a ion redline version 2
Ma bad. Either way, I call on the story unless the original postee can answer some questions and provide some proof.
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Unless you go a dyno sheet to prove 235WHP, that thing doesnt have 250 HP. If you keep thinking it does and you dont have any mods, id seriously watch you dont start to wonder into burntrice territory.
Most Redlines/Cobalt SSs dyno anywhere from 215-225 WHP, with a couple with more.

http://www.modernperformance.com/gm/...o_session1.jpg

Not exactly 250 crank HP, but it's up there.

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Don't you know that Chevy underates all of their cars, and every single car they make has 200 more HP than they say, and is capable of low mid/low 13s?
Like how BMW makes cars that defy the laws of physics and are fast with only 184 HP?
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

I'm sick of everyone saying the Cobalt is a warmed-over Cavalier. The Cobalt is on a completely different platform, with a completely different chassis. The Cobalt SS only runs a 14.9? Motor Trend ran it at 14.4, and there are always a few owners who are faster than the magazines. Does it have 250 hp? Doubtful, but I think it has a bit more than 205.
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I'm sick of everyone saying the Cobalt is a warmed-over Cavalier. The Cobalt is on a completely different platform, with a completely different chassis. The Cobalt SS only runs a 14.9? Motor Trend ran it at 14.4, and there are always a few owners who are faster than the magazines. Does it have 250 hp? Doubtful, but I think it has a bit more than 205.
Easy buddy, it was a simple question. Whatever it may run in the 1/4 mile, this depends on the driver and we don't know how talented he is, you can't argue that with the SS running 0-60 in 6 and the eclipse running it in 6.7-6.8 that it will give 2 bus lengths in 10 seconds or so from a stop.
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

Man...I stired up an ant's nest on this one. Chevy has the damn things rated at 205 BHP @ 5800 rpm. The mother fucker pulls max power way passed that. So on a true dyno pull up to the max rpm they are making between 215-225 whp (depending on envirionment conditions). Now factor in powertrain loss and you have just under 250 BHP. My god, bunch of grouchy bastards in here.

I'm also waiting for it to cool down a bit so I can see 12.5 pnds boost like I'm supposed to get, instead of this 10.5-11 pnd crap. Az is too effin hot.
But 10 seems to be good enough to walk most anything on the road that messes with me for now. And no, I'm not saying I can take Vettes, Evo's, Sti's or anything of that nature. I like my car, but I'm not stupid. Besides, this is just my daily driver to have a little fun with and mod up. My fast car is the Camaro.

Furthermore, never compare me to the fucktard burntrice.

Cassie and Jayson also need to stop being such dicks to everyone on this forum as well.
Between the two of you, you guys have a low end bimmer, and a Cavy. Supercharger or not, you two are not exactly on the top of the food chain in this forum or on the streets. Nor am I...which is why I'm not a fucking asshole to everyone around me. That and the fact that i'm just not an asshole.
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

I need to just start taking my damn Video camera out with me everyday. As well as a passenger to operate the damn thing...
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

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OH it's a Cobalt SS. I thought you were talking about the '71 Camaro in your profile. My mistake on that one.
I'd add the SS/SC to my profile but AF hasnt updated the car selection yet. So I physically cannot add the vehicle yet.
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

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The cobalt SS makes 250 crank, really? I thought it has the same engine as the ion redline, which would put it at...shit I don't know, but less than 250
The SS is dynoing higher then the Redline. It dynos about 217 whp stock (Close to the 223 whp of a stock SRT-4, though they develop far less torque). Given a 15% drivetrain loss, i'd say a stock SS is pushing out about 249 flywheel horsepower. Not too bad. Let all the doubters unite, and talk about track times. I see 99+ GT Mustangs run in the 15's at Speedway. Nothing new to me.
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Re: SS/SC Vs. V6 Eclipse

I'm running my car this weekend at Firebird Raceway. I'll try to get vid's as along with the timeslips.
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