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Old 07-10-2005, 11:02 PM
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The $2000 limit was just for turbos, so the sport 500's are below that limit, I think i'm getting them for $1800 =) I am getting a turbo timer, that was the Blitz one, it looked really easy to use and it cost like 90 bucks so i said "what the hell". Yeah, I know I'm going to be needing to get a boost controller soon, that will come when i get a bit more money, i will get that Greddy one when I do though. I have a $500 clutch already in place, it will hold for a while I think, I'll get a crazy one when it blows. Testpipes are coming with the Lebree exhaust system. Dude, that's seriously one crazy exhaust system, the guy virtually guaranteed me the complete system will up the horsepower by about 60 (I'm not sure if that includes the downpipes or not, it probably does) Your recommendations are definitely good ones, and when I buy that boost controller I'll probably pick those up as well. The good news is that I'm not really doing any power based upgrades. Most of the upgrades are just for improved air flow, so the engine won't have to work as hard to push the power, so hopefully cooling won't be a problem, especially since I'm not really getting bigger turbos or anything, the sport 500's are almost exactly the same as stock, just a tiny bit more powerful. If anything, having stock piping, being as narrow and restrictive as it is, this actually is tougher on the engine and causes more heat to accumulate.
yeah...but once you start boosting those sport 500's your gonna need to keep everything cool. no point of buying turbos and not upping the boost...

and yes it will be a very nice, complete set-up in the car and as you have it...it i will max out your fuel injectors. once you upgrade the fuel injectors you now need stronger engine internals because the engine just got maxxed out. anyways, enough of me ranting....it seems you have a pretty good idea on what your doing so keep going and come back to us when you got any more questions...

and yes your exhaust should add alot of HP...

as for the blitz turbo timer...thats fine. they all are pretty inexpensive...i just picked up a greddy to match my profec B. i just dont care for Blitz products...they all seem cheap and "Toys'R'Us" like,...but im sure its just me. anyways have fun... and remember drive safe.
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Thanks very much for all your input and info =) where are you located? I'm in So Cal. Sometimes I go on drives, you outta bring your Z out sometime if you're in the area...
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Re: Ferrari Sounding 300zx Exhaust

well, i'm up in canada (west coast area) and k3's way the hell out in illinois... i think the closest member to you that i know of here is broke, he's up in washington..
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Re: Ferrari Sounding 300zx Exhaust

straight pipes as big as you can get. as long as you don't have to spend more then an hour on the highway.
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well, i'm up in canada (west coast area) and k3's way the hell out in illinois... i think the closest member to you that i know of here is broke, he's up in washington..
yep...illinois is where i live, about 50 miles south of chicago.

George (1viadrift) lives in northern Cal and redneck lives in california...

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straight pipes as big as you can get. as long as you don't have to spend more then an hour on the highway.
WTF...if you read the post, he wanted something nice tone and that looked nice. i dont think 2 pipes sticking 2 feet off the back end of a 300zx is attractive...that frugal shit belongs on shit.
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it i will max out your fuel injectors.
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once you upgrade the fuel injectors you now need stronger engine internals because the engine just got maxxed out.
Not really, it's all about tuning. Stock engine in fairly good condition should be good for 500rwhp if you know what you are doing. Sport 500s aren't ever really going to push enough power to warrant an engine build. Think they hit the limit at 20-21 psi, which given how little the engine will ever hit those pressures, should be fine on a stock bottom end.
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Not really, it's all about tuning. Stock engine in fairly good condition should be good for 500rwhp if you know what you are doing. Sport 500s aren't ever really going to push enough power to warrant an engine build. Think they hit the limit at 20-21 psi, which given how little the engine will ever hit those pressures, should be fine on a stock bottom end.
ehh...sounds sketchy. id rather play it safe rather than blow my engine. but that is just me...
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ehh...sounds sketchy. id rather play it safe rather than blow my engine. but that is just me...
Well given that a rebuild is going to be in the area of $1000 after everything is added up, another $1000 at least for pistons and rods plus all the misc extras that come up (gaskets, hoses, tubes and all that). Factor in everything you're going to want to do with the engine out like urethane mounts, cams, springs, coatings, bolts, etc etc etc...

That's a lot of money to spend if your power levels really aren't going to require it. If you are on a budget there is no sense having a built engine you'll never need.
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Well given that a rebuild is going to be in the area of $1000 after everything is added up, another $1000 at least for pistons and rods plus all the misc extras that come up (gaskets, hoses, tubes and all that). Factor in everything you're going to want to do with the engine out like urethane mounts, cams, springs, coatings, bolts, etc etc etc...

That's a lot of money to spend if your power levels really aren't going to require it. If you are on a budget there is no sense having a built engine you'll never need.
sure there is...

plus all you really need to do is upgrade the pistons and and slap some ARP's in and your good for about 600whp, unless im mistaken. its only 'you' and your "might as wells" that cost so much...

i wouldnt trust an internally stock VG30DETT to boost 20psi consistently...maybe on a very cool night but thats as far as that would go. i like to give myself some leadway, not take it to the extreme. the way i see it, if you blew the motor...you failed, so do whats needed to be done to prevent the motor from blowing in the first place. and for the VG it really just needs a fresh rebuild and some stronger pistons and bolts. while, i am there i plan to get some lighter rods to take some weight off of moving parts but other than that it will just be balanced and what not. dont really plan to do any headwork anytime soon...
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plus all you really need to do is upgrade the pistons and and slap some ARP's in and your good for about 600whp, unless im mistaken. its only 'you' and your "might as wells" that cost so much...
Pistons, ARPs and rebuild still in the $1500-$2000 dollar area. Second point conceeded with the note that it's not only me.

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i wouldnt trust an internally stock VG30DETT to boost 20psi consistently...maybe on a very cool night but thats as far as that would go. i like to give myself some leadway, not take it to the extreme. the way i see it, if you blew the motor...you failed, so do whats needed to be done to prevent the motor from blowing in the first place. and for the VG it really just needs a fresh rebuild and some stronger pistons and bolts. while, i am there i plan to get some lighter rods to take some weight off of moving parts but other than that it will just be balanced and what not. dont really plan to do any headwork anytime soon...
Ahhhh up yours. I drove the car for 18 miles you putz and didn't boost over 5 psi the whole time.
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Pistons, ARPs and rebuild still in the $1500-$2000 dollar area. Second point conceeded with the note that it's not only me.



Ahhhh up yours. I drove the car for 18 miles you putz and didn't boost over 5 psi the whole time.
yeah, $1500-$2000 is well worth it when you spent that on turbos alone.

i wasnt referring to you blowing your motor....i was just saying in general.

let me rephrase it how i meant it: the way i see it, if someone blows the motor...they have failed as a tuner, so that person needs to do what is needed to be done to prevent the motor from blowing in the first place.
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