H22 Swap Exchange B16 (Help)

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by stopufool

well the point is that you can get a supercharger for like 800, and that is a full kit, just look hard enough. You will never find a full turbo kit for that. .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...978836809&rd=1
You could find turbo kits for $700 (for d-series anyways) on e-bay all day long if you wanted to, it doesn't make it worth it. Any turbo kit of supercharger kit you find for $800 is going to be a POS that is either beat or will only last a few months until something goes wrong. The only people I know who would put something like that on their car are people who put it on their beater cars and don't care about any kind of serious power. You definently get what you pay for. I don't know what world you live in where you can pay that little and seriously expect it to last for the long term.

And I agree with 97integrals. I'm sure for some people, going out and shooting random people like in GTA and think it's fun; but it doesn't make it a good thing to do. If you don't care about your own well being, that's one thing, but when you put other peoples lives in your hands then you're an idiot.

[stopufool]

ok i am the idiot, but you think a stock b16 motor that is turboed and is making 300whp is going to last long? i know i am not the only one that thinks that is just dumb, that motor will just blow up in a short time.

Now a built motor with turbo, of course has more potential, i just like superchargers more because they are more fun to daily drive.

Don't get so hostile cause you love something that is so expensive to keep your motor from blowing up in front of you.

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by stopufool

ok i am the idiot, but you think a stock b16 motor that is turboed and is making 300whp is going to last long? i know i am not the only one that thinks that is just dumb, that motor will just blow up in a short time.

You have no clue what you're talking about. There are people with 300whp D16's (daily drivers) that have been driving their cars for years with no problems. And the D16 is a hell of a lot weaker than the b16a. Go check out turbod16.com and learn something.

[stopufool]

what are you talking about other peoples lives? GTA? Not sure where you are going with that.

And yes you can get good stuff for cheap, things happen where people have to sell there stuff. Just cause it is for sale don't mean its crap. Most time people are hard up on cash and need things sold quick.

The point of this whole thread if you have been reading that is was better to build up his motor rather then swap out his b16 for an h22, for cost benefit. What i was saying is that for 800 he could find a jrsc and that would give him about 40-50hp gain, exactly what he was looking to get in the first place, just about 1200 cheaper. But you guys are so turbo happy you want to tell the guy that if he gets a turbo he can go 300whp on his stock motor with out it getting blown eventually and that just isn't true

[CivicSpoon]

No we're just trying to clear up the misinformation you're giving out (not that he needs it to be cleared up for him, but others will). There is still no way that you're going to pay 1/3 the price of a brand new SC and have it last. I don't care if the person is selling it to get much needed $ or not, for $800 it's going to be a POS. Half the price of new sure, but 1/3 give me a break. And if he's looking for more hp, I'd assume he'd be looking for something that's not going to break in a month; where he wastes his hard earned $. And the GTA thing was an example of how stupid things ARE stupid, whether they are fun to someone or not. You have much to learn.

[stopufool]

um ok so somehow you got this to playing gta is stupid, so you don't like video games, we are talking about cars here keep your eyes on the ball.

And yes you can get a good cheap supercharger on ebay, on an easy day you can get it for 1000, if you wait long enough you can get it for 800. The price you pay is determined on how many people see the listing, if the person doesn't know how to list on ebay then less people will find it when they search, therefore you have less bids and a lower price. I am an ebay seller, i have seen plenty go for 800-900, plenty

[97integrals]

Originally Posted by stopufool

what are you talking about other peoples lives? GTA? Not sure where you are going with that.

And yes you can get good stuff for cheap, things happen where people have to sell there stuff. Just cause it is for sale don't mean its crap. Most time people are hard up on cash and need things sold quick.

The point of this whole thread if you have been reading that is was better to build up his motor rather then swap out his b16 for an h22, for cost benefit. What i was saying is that for 800 he could find a jrsc and that would give him about 40-50hp gain, exactly what he was looking to get in the first place, just about 1200 cheaper. But you guys are so turbo happy you want to tell the guy that if he gets a turbo he can go 300whp on his stock motor with out it getting blown eventually and that just isn't true

Do you have any experience with a stock block turbo Honda? I highly doubt it! I had a hatch with an ls motor, with a gt28 turbo that made 302whp. I drove that car for a year and a half everyday with no problems. I sold the car to a friend of mine who drove the car for another 8 months before he decided to build the motor and up the power. The car had over 40,000 miles on it while making 300whp. Quit pulling info out of your ass! As for street racing refer to this thread for my thoughts on that: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=309710

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by stopufool

um ok so somehow you got this to playing gta is stupid, so you don't like video games, we are talking about cars here keep your eyes on the ball.

You are an idiot. I guess you've never heard of an example before, or read one for that matter. Go re-read what I said if you're having such a hard time understanding what I was saying. I wasn't talking about the game it's self.

Originally Posted by stopufool

And yes you can get a good cheap supercharger on ebay, on an easy day you can get it for 1000, if you wait long enough you can get it for 800. The price you pay is determined on how many people see the listing, if the person doesn't know how to list on ebay then less people will find it when they search, therefore you have less bids and a lower price. I am an ebay seller, i have seen plenty go for 800-900, plenty

It still doesn't make it worth buying, or something that will last long. Maybe if you stay around here a little longer, you're realize that a "good deal" isn't always a good deal. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are a few cases where you can find something half way decent for cheap; but you'll never know until you open the box and look at it (or hook it up). And an e-bay seller yourself, you should realize there are millions of scams out there that take peoples hard earned $ and leave them with expensive paper weights.

I think you need to go back a re-read all the posts and try your hardest to comprehend what is being told to you. I'm done trying to explain this to you. If you want to get some real info them go look for it, but stop spreading your bullshit around here that you're just picking up from people who don't know any better.

[stopufool]

first off, the gta thing i knew what you were talking about but it was such a stupid metaphor that i felt like playing you on it.

And i am not gonna argue the ebay thing with you anymore because its not worth the time or the energy, i have bought plenty of things off of ebay for far cheaper than retail(which by the way it is the point of ebay, you buy things far below retail)

and you are saying you can get a b16 to do 300whp turboed without any work being done to the motor to make sure that it doesn't blow up on you, i say it can't and still be reliable.....I agree to disagree

[Ace$nyper]

wow this thread took a crap fast.

In my views why not swap both are high revving powerful little 4s ones 1.6 and ones 2.2L both are strong honda motors and would rip in a lighter car then the 'lude.

Signal is the main man you want to talk to when it comes to H22s. Alas with your car it doesn't just bolt up but the install isn't too hard.

Ask me get h22 and don't read all the posts in this thread

[MexSiR]

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Guys, I dont think you got the main point of the thread. Im going to SELL my current B16A2 with 60,000 and buy a CHEAPER H22 from an older year. That gives me some spare cash in order to buy the mounts, axels...plus whatever I have to spend.

So the idea is SELLING ALL MY SHIT, and buying an H22 with all the stuff in it.

Now, what do you guys think about that? Once again, I can put older engines in my car than 1999 in mexico its no problem.

Thanks,
MexSiR

[h22meangreen]

wow i see turbo head here is getting offended

[stopufool]

yeah well if your cost isn't going to be much out of pocket then sure get it, i am sure it will pull hard

[SiGNAL748]

Originally Posted by MexSiR

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Guys, I dont think you got the main point of the thread. Im going to SELL my current B16A2 with 60,000 and buy a CHEAPER H22 from an older year. That gives me some spare cash in order to buy the mounts, axels...plus whatever I have to spend.

So the idea is SELLING ALL MY SHIT, and buying an H22 with all the stuff in it.

Now, what do you guys think about that? Once again, I can put older engines in my car than 1999 in mexico its no problem.

Thanks,
MexSiR

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