cool race

[91HBSi]

Originally posted by Self


Incorrect here. V6 Mustangs run low to mid 16s, while the Probe is capable of a low 15s under the care of a deft driver, but more often sees mid 15s.

Wow, why do they even make V6 mustangs? Well, nevermind I can answer that. Every 16 year old girl that lives around here drives a V6 Mustang auto, they ARE big money makers I guess.

[APHEX TWIN]

...The v6 164hp engine for all 2nd generation probes is strictly mazda. The v6 for the 1st gens is the 3.0 Vulcan (american) - yet the 2.2l inline 4 is mazda as well...


...the mx6 shares key components with 2nd gen probes - like the v6... but what im getting at is this: if you won this so-called "race" with a 2nd gen probe GT - which does 0-to-60 stock, in 7.4 seconds... with your honda... there has to be something wrong with his GT. 1st gen turbo's are slightly faster than 2nd gen GT's...

...go to www.probetalk.com - with some decent work - not too extensive - you can juice a gt to start tearing cars like WS6's apart... as far as reliablility went - Probes were great - but if something did go wrong, or break - the shitty part was the expensive, expensive, exoensive replacement part cost.

As far as im concerned, Ford left the probe for dead, and it should've taken it much more seriously - performance wize it was amazing for the amount of horsepower it had, yet the torque numbers were always very respectable - but fact of the matter is, the probe changed the way the industry built sport compacts / hatchbacks - the styling was stolen from everything including Lazers, Saturns, Eclipses, Talons, ect... there were more prototypes of the Probe than almost any car ever made... infact, the 1989 Probe GT was inducted into the Detroit Auto Museum for these very facts earlier this year.

[Barwick]

sorry, but something wasn't right there. I've driven a Civic LX and I don't care if you've done Intake, Headers, and Exhaust.. you were NOT going to beat a probe V6 in any race. He was probably just looking ahead because he stopped racing way back at 75 when you "started pulling on him".

[MechanisM]

Speaking of Probes....I got in behind one today cruising to work.

I couldn't tell if he had exhaust work done....or if it was just a tip...either way, it did not sound too good.

We merged onto the highway, not much traffic and I go to pass him doing about 60, he revs, I shift to 3rd and step on it.... hit 90, shift to 4th get up to about 110 and decide to slow it down....almost ran into a damn minivan

He ended up about 5 cars behind.

His ride did sound a little ragged out

[The_DeViL_]

Curb weight of a stick shift is 3114 lbs. That's not heavy. And 225 lbs of torque isn't a lot either. Hell my little 3.4 liter in my S-10 is pulling 240, that ain't much either though.

[APHEX TWIN]

"" And 225 lbs of torque isn't a lot either. ""

...um, that's not to say that it isn't bad either. And first off, not to say anything about your S10-Xtreme.... because I dont know shit about that truck... but usually... in most trucks... the amount of torque is pretty large... not to mention that they're geared to "pull things" not accelerate or have the best top speeds...


...in other words, i dont know what the hell you're spouting these facts numbers for.... i mean, wasn't this an argument over an old civic vs. a 2nd gen Probe GT ?

I dunno... seems a no contest to me.

[The_DeViL_]

in other words, i dont know what the hell you're spouting these facts numbers for

Heh I dunno I guess I was being a real asshole that day or something.

i mean, wasn't this an argument over an old civic vs. a 2nd gen Probe GT ?

Seems like most topics end up off topic heh oh well.

[PFCfutrell]

enough with the pointless quoting. I raced a Probe GT when I was in highschool driving a '91 Prelude SI (2.1 liter 140hp 5 speed). We were neck and neck the whole race, my Prelude (with my lack of driving skill) was probably running a high 16 low 17 if that. I know that they're capable of high 15's stock, but my friend with an MX6 (same thing as a probe GT) ran high 15's with a centerforce clutch, exhaust, intake, coilovers, etc... They're not very fast stock, the main difference between a v6 mx6 and a probe gt is the gearing of the tranny from what i've heard. The MX6 has a shorter final drive for better cruising where the probe is geared more sportilly, my friends MX6 had a probe gt tranny.

[APHEX TWIN]

Originally posted by The_DeViL_

Seems like most topics end up off topic heh oh well.

heheh.... sorry man - I was being the asshole that day.

:cry:


Anyway...stock the 0-to-60 time is 7.4 seconds 1st and 2nd gen GT's. But the 1st gen is like .5 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile....


...with an intake, exhaust (cat-back), and headers.... a 2nd gen GT starts getting pretty quick. Probe's aren't the fastest cars by any means - but for this original argument - I think the Probe either wasn't racing at all - or there was something wrong with it or the driver was retarded.

[flylwsi]

ok... so if you passed him while he was cruising, then he tried to catch up, it does take a while regardless of the car, to catch up...

the probe is quick, especially against the civic lx... but hey... your word is your word. you are the one that sleeps on it, not me.


also... the s 10 has a 4.3, not a 3.4.
but 245 tq ain't bad at all...

[The_DeViL_]

the s 10 has a 4.3, not a 3.4

Doh, typo.

Aphex is that your car?

[APHEX TWIN]

Nope!


here's my 1st gen - (bad bad pics...) Plus. she's dirty too

- oh yeah, this isn't me either - it's my friend Austin.

This picture is old as hell - the car looks different now - spoiler, cat-back, ect... however since then, the digital camera stopped working. Time for a new one. Anyway, later guys.

[junkheap]

There is no way the civic would beat a 2.4 v6 mx6/probe gt. ESPECIALLY at high rpm when the vris kicks in. The american mx6/probe gt's are equivalent to the american iintegra gsr's in stock 1/4, while the jspec mx6's are obviously a lot faster.

[PFCfutrell]

Originally posted by junkheap
There is no way the civic would beat a 2.4 v6 mx6/probe gt. ESPECIALLY at high rpm when the vris kicks in. The american mx6/probe gt's are equivalent to the american iintegra gsr's in stock 1/4, while the jspec mx6's are obviously a lot faster.

The JDM MX6 uses a different version of the K series motor, KLZE i believe and it makes around 200hp. It's a common swap for the Probe, MX6, and MX3 (it would be unruley in an MX3). I dunno who'd win, take it to the track and find out, my $.02

[flylwsi]

hmm...

a female friend of mine just stuffed the 2.5 jdm motor in her mx3... its unruly. if you remember the second Summit import catalog, that was her on the cover, its mostly red with purple and yellow graphics on the back... it's going to be in the mazda booth at HIN in chicago next weekend...