Sound Survey

[BlazerLT]

I have two pioneers IMPP 10s and I love them. For the money, they perform exceptionally well.

But I do agree that the IMPP 12 can not handle 1000watts RMS so the guys measurement must have been the MAX reading for the amp which means nothing.

[chris15706]

Yeah i looked at yours. You got a good deal on them. I was happy with my pioneer when i had it. Good clean sound. But one day i decided i wanted more bass so i got a kicker comp vr 12. I paid $150 a peice for them. That was 5 years ago and every since then i have been stuck on kicker. You can buy those for a fairly low price now. Somewhere around $70. I love the L7's. The 10 inch is louder than a normal 12. There are other good brands out there. Kicker has just been the best for me. Always had good luck with them.

[bigry2004]

rms power is 500 W. thanks for the tips guys.

[Sen Sen]

my opinion :Pioneer is Shit.
there extremely expensive competion speakers. are the only thing worth considering.

[ponchonutty]

You guys can see what I have in my sig. If anyone is in central Ohio, swing into my shop and take a listen. It will make your jaw drop.

[Sen Sen]

thats a killer looking box ponchonutty!!
What's the cost to do up an encloser like that?

[ponchonutty]

Originally Posted by Sen Sen

thats a killer looking box ponchonutty!!
What's the cost to do up an encloser like that?

Thanks! I don't want to sound like an ass but I laugh at some of the pics these guys post of their "kick ass" system. What they have looks like what I did 15 years ago when I first started in the bizz.

To answer your question, it all depends on the layout. Something like this but using carpet you'd be in the $500 range. I am painting it with the same paint as my Jeep. Then, I have a buddy that does custom paint for rods and Harleys. He's like 2 years booked but will fit me in When it's all done, probably about $1000 just for the box alone.

I am in talks with Baja Boats in using this box as a pattern. That way I can mass produce them. This layout I have can be easily modified for trunks, hatches, or just about anything. So, if I can strike a deal, obviously it would be considerably less.

[BlazerLT]

Originally Posted by Sen Sen

my opinion :Pioneer is Shit.
there extremely expensive competion speakers. are the only thing worth considering.

Yip, your opinion ONLY.

Actually , they're really underrated.

Smart consumers don't buy because of the name brand, they do research on the quality and value for the money.

Pioneer sound amazing for what they cost.

I have had nothing but pure enjoyment out of my two tens and couldn't be happier.

[chris15706]

I think rockfords suck. Mainly because of the price. You dont get what you pay for at all. You can get way better sound out of cheaper stuff if you shop around and hear different subs. Most people i talk to think they are the best mainly because of the price. Or what the guys at best buy tell them.... Pioneer sells their stuff at a very fair price! Good clean bass. I wish they would make better subs that handled more power with higher db's.

[BlazerLT]

Just stay away from the low end RF punch stuff.

Distort really badly when pushed.

[EmTea]

Stock kickers, stock sub, stock rear speakers, and no amp. Also I have a generic CD player replacement.
I told ya I was hardkore.

[Sen Sen]

Originally Posted by BlazerLT

Yip, your opinion ONLY.

Actually , they're really underrated.

Smart consumers don't buy because of the name brand, they do research on the quality and value for the money.

Pioneer sound amazing for what they cost.

I'll keep that in mind, next time I need to put a Sound System together with my Canadian Tire Money.
No offense to anyone who owns pioneer equipment.
but from my personal experence and from what I've heard.
Pioneer is unreliable cheap crap.

[BlazerLT]

What is your experience with them?

What model or equipment did you use?

[Sen Sen]

I've used decks, subs and speakers from Pioneer.
All of them were a disapointment in quailty.
Sorry but i don't remember there model numbers.

[ponchonutty]

Originally Posted by Sen Sen

I've used decks, subs and speakers from Pioneer.
All of them were a disapointment in quailty.
Sorry but i don't remember there model numbers.

Sorry to hear that. Really, any electronic gadget these days are put together crap. Now, I usually just stick to Pioneer decks and coax speakers. I've never messed with too much other stuff. I did have a real nice 10" woofer in a bandpass box. I can't remember the part number but it was a packaged deal from Pioneer. Man, did that ever my my wife's S10 blazer shake. Anyway, I've had no problems with any of the Pioneer stuff I sell.

Now, I do buy many things of a guy on Ebay. He usually sells mostly Pioneer decks. He said mostly they are new store returns or something like that. He said that everyone has the wiring harness covered in tape and you can see the wire was just wrapped together. Usually that blows the amp circuit. He replaced that $10 part and he's ready to go!