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Re: The V6 Stigma
I've once heard its a driver race between a stock 305 camaro and a 3.8l fourth gen. the 3.8l give mustang foxbodys a tough time, as well as the (now old) mustang gt ...speaking stock for stock that is.
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Re: The V6 Stigma
From what I've heard the V6 beats most pre-97 mustang Gt's and all mustang 6'ers as well as almost all the civics on the road and such. Definately go take out out for a spin... (donuts too if they dont catch ya)
Don't assume V-6 = no power. On the contrary Hypsi87 is running more horsepower on a v-6 then most V8 guys could ever touch. Its on a similar engine of the 3.8l too (not quite the same his is built for turbo out of the door [Grand National]) but still, 6ers are quite the beasts. And you can put a few buck sinto it to make her down in the low 15's, then with cheater juice it can take on some Z cars. =) we're not talking too much money and you can always save it for your next maro.
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Re: The V6 Stigma
How much is the difference going to be for insurance, cost wise? Couple hundred bucks?
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Re: The V6 Stigma
3.8 = faster than pre-98 mustang GTs stock for stock. V6 mustangs... haven't lost to one. Haven't had to pleasure of racing a new one yet tho... but of course Im not racing till I get my tuning done
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97 Camaro - 2.077 60', 14.745 @ 92.20 - still down, one year later. 194k miles-160* thermo-V8 shocks/springs (V6 rear springs)-3" Magnaflow !cat (3" dynomax bullet) back-SLP CAI-stock boxed LCAs-poly tranny mount and torque arm bushing-custom HPTuners tuning-4.10s/eaton/TA girdle-3.5" alum DS-spohn LCA brackets-prostar skinnies 179.75 RWHP, 204.52 RWTQ ON ITS WAY: MORE R.I.P. Andy 87 Benz 190e - DD 01 EX250 - still gotta get my license for this thing |
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Re: The V6 Stigma
yeah if u roll up on a 5.0 it will pretty much be a race of drivers as long as its stock, i blew my chance to get in one a few days ago i must have been tired that night but one pulled up next to me at a light and i was just looking at it then when the light changed he took off like a damn fool then it clicked on me that i should have got me some. i caught him before we got to another red and when the light changed that time he bitched out. back in 89-94 5.0 mustangs where the thing to have but what was fast then damn sure aint fast now! and like the guys said the 3800 is a great engine i think the best move chevy made from that 3.4, if u get one throw some gears in it you'll feel the pull from the line, get some nice tires, tune it up real good, and replace that damn airbox with a cold air intake (slp) is nice and im telling u, your gonna love it. now no doubt later down the line reach for that v8, or u can do like i do grab u some (cheater juice) real funny guys lol, and then u can hang with some z's no doubt and stomp some ponies.
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My 3.4l/auto is pretty quick when you get it above 3k RPMs. Below, and it's a bit anemic. In fact, my main complaint is that I haven't found the exact cubic inch displacement, so I can use a real measument. That, and the automatic. I'm much like you, in that I run the speed limit, but I like a good screech when I start out every now and then, and I'm always slinging passengers across the seats.
I haven't managed to run mine enough to actually need gas. I don't let it get below a half tank (I never have on any vehicle), but I haven't had the cash on hand to fill 'er up. And it'll take a month for me to get back down to half a tank again, for all I drive. I'm estimating right now a good 24-25 or so. I've had bad experiences with a 305 V8, so if you do go V8, I'd look for a 350 instead. I've seen one push over a million miles in a step van, running to and fro Mexico, so I know how good they are, so far as reliability, and my '89 GMC truck got an average 24 mpg with a 350 and a OD auto, until the trans blew up. Plus, parts are dirt cheap (I don't know about the 305. They tend to blow up around me).
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Can't you find those baby superchargers that are on the GTP, and SSEI? If those would fit, they would be a nice compliment, and I doubt you would blow your stock internals.
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Re: The V6 Stigma
GTP has a different upper intake manifold, some other stuff, and is facing the wrong way. There are turbo and supercharger kits tho..
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97 Camaro - 2.077 60', 14.745 @ 92.20 - still down, one year later. 194k miles-160* thermo-V8 shocks/springs (V6 rear springs)-3" Magnaflow !cat (3" dynomax bullet) back-SLP CAI-stock boxed LCAs-poly tranny mount and torque arm bushing-custom HPTuners tuning-4.10s/eaton/TA girdle-3.5" alum DS-spohn LCA brackets-prostar skinnies 179.75 RWHP, 204.52 RWTQ ON ITS WAY: MORE R.I.P. Andy 87 Benz 190e - DD 01 EX250 - still gotta get my license for this thing |
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Re: Re: The V6 Stigma
Definitely I would day if you want to increase your chances of competing with a V8 i'd go with a supercharger and different gears. The other day I saw a 00 Camaro V6 auto convertible with a vortech supercharger and 3:42 stock gears.
So if you want cheaper insurance decent mileage and a car to put ricers in their place go with the V6.
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and if u dont have 3-4 grand for a turbo or supercharger go with the juice, its the quickest gain u can buy (besides getting a new car altogether) 600 for the kit, a few dollars for some internals if u wanna go that way and your on your way
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If a supercharger would run me like 4 grand wouldn't it be cheaper/the same to just swap in an LT1?
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But you'd have a 300+hp 6er and would piss off LS1 guys when you blow by 'em =)
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97 Camaro - 2.077 60', 14.745 @ 92.20 - still down, one year later. 194k miles-160* thermo-V8 shocks/springs (V6 rear springs)-3" Magnaflow !cat (3" dynomax bullet) back-SLP CAI-stock boxed LCAs-poly tranny mount and torque arm bushing-custom HPTuners tuning-4.10s/eaton/TA girdle-3.5" alum DS-spohn LCA brackets-prostar skinnies 179.75 RWHP, 204.52 RWTQ ON ITS WAY: MORE R.I.P. Andy 87 Benz 190e - DD 01 EX250 - still gotta get my license for this thing |
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V6 to V8 Swap is **APPROX(I.e. dont quote me for exact figure)** 8-10k
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