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Old 03-04-2005, 10:07 PM
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You still have not explained your previous statement clawhammer. You implied all riots are bad period.

So should I go ahead and presume you side with the Chinese Goverment's position on Tien An Men.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:10 PM
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You still have not explained your previous statement clawhammer. You implied all riots are bad period.

So should I go ahead and presume you side with the Chinese Goverment's position on Tien An Men.
Riots are bad. I'm not saying that peaceful protests are bad, but when the protestors start acting violent, and cause damage, than it is bad.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:15 PM
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Riots are bad. I'm not saying that peaceful protests are bad, but when the protestors start acting violent, and cause damage, than it is bad.

So you are saing all the revolutions that involved violent riots against brutal dictators are bad. Ceausescu would've loved you same goes for all the other dictators ousted this way.
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Riots are bad. I'm not saying that peaceful protests are bad, but when the protestors start acting violent, and cause damage, than it is bad.
Let's say for argument's sake that Saddam was still in power and that for arguments sake the US wasn't in Iraq. Then a bunch of civilians finally decided to overthrow the dictatorship but then were gunned down with "pain-guns"....would that be bad or good?
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:17 PM
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So you are saing all the revolutions that involved violent riots against brutal dictators are bad.
No, those were not bad. But this "weapon" is developed in the US, where we don't have a dictator (don't comment).
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:19 PM
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No, those were not bad. But this "weapon" is developed in the US, where we don't have a dictator (don't comment).

Then specify that in your post. Don't imply that all riots are bad. And just because this weapon is developed in the US that doesn't mean its technology won't be used by other countries. Take North Korea for example the seat of one of the most brutal dictators in history.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:24 PM
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Then specify that in your post. Don't imply that all riots are bad. And just because this weapon is developed in the US that doesn't mean its technology won't be used by other countries. Take North Korea for example the seat of one of the most brutal dictators in history.
Why would the US share the technology with North Korea?
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:25 PM
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Don't be so quick to say they wouldn't.
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No, those were not bad. But this "weapon" is developed in the US, where we don't have a dictator (don't comment).

Nuclear weapons were also developed in the US. Are you guarranteeing us that those will nrever be used against good people?
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Why would the US share the technology with North Korea?

Since we are talking about this on Af its clear that this is not ultra secret tech so there is a good posibily they can access it.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:48 PM
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Since we are talking about this on Af its clear that this is not ultra secret tech so there is a good posibily they can access it.
Well, then tell me in specific details on how this is being constructed.
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Old 03-04-2005, 11:09 PM
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Well, then tell me in specific details on how this is being constructed.

Please don't be obtuse. Read nakis post and understand the point.
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Well I guess it would be better than to get beat badly by a nightstick.

Although I also question the ethical aspects in this form of a weapen.
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Old 03-04-2005, 11:31 PM
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Why would the US share the technology with North Korea?
The US is sharing many technological developments with North Korea. Through a combination of security lapses and indirect purchases on the international markets countries that are not friendly to the US have repeatedly purchased equipment and technology against the wishes of the US.A simple example would be the sale of nuclear material to Iran by Russia. The US has no say in how technology spreads around the world,and Russia has put George Bush firmly in his place by ignoring his demands.


The disturbing thing that occurs to me in this research is that there appears to be no limit to the pain levels that it can be inflicted.Even if developed as a riot control device, it could end up killing the elerly or the sick.Or more disturbingly, there is no indication that it couldn't be used to intentionally kill.I'm certain that if you amplify pain enough, it would result in death.
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