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[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

Em=sellout.




ad potential in the early days, it all went out the window with his goofy shit. Now I just plain hate him because he lacks the capability to change his style...it's always the same type rythm to his songs

How exactly is that "selling out"?

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by KustmAce

How exactly is that "selling out"?

Because he makes music for the wrong crowd now.

[-Davo]

Selling out is what Artists do to make more sales. And if that means rapping about anything that'll get you an M rated album and put on the album because of your "radio friendly tunes", than that's it.

Metallica did it in 1995, but people believed it happened earlyer in 1991.

Most bands do sell out, because they realise a potential market for their style. Bands like Offspring, Blink 182, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Ashley Simpson, Lohan, and Gwen all share a common phrase of styled music; commersialised pop/pop-punk/soft-core radio friendly "pop tunes".
Commercial radio throws this shit down our throats, and so does T.V.

They do it for a reason; money. That's what raps about. That's what "pop-punk" is about.

If Eminem truely was "ganstar" he'd be in jail by now, or dead.

Even so, before he sold out to his "younger generation friendly albums" I knew an 8 year old listening to his "Marshall Mathers L.P", not the material I think SHE should be listening to. Even though the material back then was concidered "ganstar", and controversial, his new material is more than just a swing away from his older, fresher shit.

The Problem I have with this, is the world still think's he is a rap artists....He still think's he can rap.

Rap is suppose to be street, not rapping about, well, what ever "just lose it" is about, I haven't quite figured it out. And he is STILLL "Rapping" about the media and how he's ganstar and how everone is judging his wrong, fuck, get over it already.

[NeonAtron]

So to those who didnt like it did u listen to the whole cd for more than 4-5 days or just skim thru it? he does have a few "joke songs" but he has the same amount of "serious" songs. I think he's just being himself. On this album he's just letting it all hang out; and those that dont like this album just dont like Eminem.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by NeonAtron

So to those who didnt like it did u listen to the whole cd for more than 4-5 days or just skim thru it? he does have a few "joke songs" but he has the same amount of "serious" songs. I think he's just being himself. On this album he's just letting it all hang out; and those that dont like this album just dont like Eminem.

I got to hear it enough in friend's cars more than enough to know that i couldn't stand it.

[ghostrx7]

i have it and listened to it alot. dont get me wrong, there is a few good songs, but for a cd to be good, i think the good songs have to outweigh the bad. i dont think this cd does. i do like that triumpf song tho.

[BP2K2Max]

Originally Posted by NeonAtron

So to those who didnt like it did u listen to the whole cd for more than 4-5 days or just skim thru it? he does have a few "joke songs" but he has the same amount of "serious" songs. I think he's just being himself. On this album he's just letting it all hang out; and those that dont like this album just dont like Eminem.

you're wrong. i've been an eminem fan since way back when. i bought sirius radio just so i could listen to Shade45, i have every green lantern mixtape, i even have eminem's infinit album. IMO, his new cd's his worst, but i still like him as an artist. everyone puts out a poo album or song once in a while. even tupac had a couple floppers, but i still think he's the greatest of all time.

Em's album has some good songs, but that doesn't make it a good album. a good album you can put in on song one and take out at the end without skipping tracks (ie. the old wu-tang album, most tupac albums, Method man's first album, Raekwon's first album). i just think he could have done better.

Originally Posted by Davo

The Problem I have with this, is the world still think's he is a rap artists....He still think's he can rap.

if you really think eminem can't rap, then your opinion is this thread is gonna have little bearing, cuz that's just foolish. if you think just any old white guy can become a star rapper, then you really don't know rap. EMinem caught a lot of shit when he first came out and a lot of my black friends clowned on him like crazy. They all bump his shit now.

Originally Posted by Davo

If Eminem truely was "ganstar" he'd be in jail by now, or dead.

cuz then' we'd really know how well could rap, right? "gangster's" turn to rap so they don't have to do all the hustling shit anymore.

Originally Posted by Tupac Shakur

I live the lifestyle of drug dealers, but now legitly(legitimately)

would you rob people and sell drugs if you didn't have to, just so you can all youself a gangster? c'mon now.

Originally Posted by davo

Rap is suppose to be street, not rapping about, well, what ever "just lose it" is about, I haven't quite figured it out. And he is STILLL "Rapping" about the media and how he's ganstar and how everone is judging his wrong, fuck, get over it already.

eminem never claimed to be gangster. one of the verses in his songs is actually "never once did you hear my say i'm a gangster, and i don't hear no complaints"

he doesn't try to come off as a gangster, selling drugs, killin people(well i guess he does like to talk about killing people), etc. but that was never his schtick. honestly man, it seems to me like you're just making a bunch of unqualified statements to discredit a man that worked his ass off the get where he is out of spite or jealousy. he had one not so great album, give the fuckin' guy a break. he's working wonders in the rap game otherwise. he's put on more new artists this year than almost any other record label's last 5 years. After biggie, tupac, big L, and big pun died, rap had hit a low point, i think eminem had a big part to play in getting it back on track