No wonder the Iraquis don't want our boys over there...

[RSX-S777]

Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

And how is crushing a car a good way of teaching them a lesson?


Maybe they just wanted to have fun and crush things...

American Marines and special forces in Beirut (who were there as part of a peacekeeping force, mind you) would destroy all civilian cars in front of any building from which sniper fire emanated. So this type of "punishment" isn't new.

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by RSX-S777

American Marines and special forces in Beirut (who were there as part of a peacekeeping force, mind you) would destroy all civilian cars in front of any building from which sniper fire emanated. So this type of "punishment" isn't new.

Sniper fir coming from certain ares and civilians using cars to "steal" are 2 very different things. I could understand why they would destroy the cars in the first situation, but I still don't know why they crushed the car as punishment...and laughed about it

[TRD2000]

Originally Posted by SniperX13

you must remember, the media is biased usually one way... and thats whatever will sell the most papers. If suddenly, the whole world shifted towards liking the war in Iraq, and agreeing with it whole heartedly, then the negative images would almost dissappear, and you would hear about Soldiers giving up things to help desperate iraqi's, tales of heroic effort, and the things that I am sure that are happening, but are being passed over because its not whats "hot" right now.

heroic effort like "Saving Private Lynch", maybe if the positive stories in the first place didn't all turn out to be ficticious propoganda bullshit coming from the same people who gave ficticious bullshit reasons to invade another country, resulting in 10's of thousands of deaths, while continuing with their bullshit paranoia propoganda about how they were doing it for "freedom", then perhaps people would demand more happy stories, because perhaps they may have more trust in them, if you want to blame someone for the negative stories, don't blame "liberals" blame the republicans who cried wolf with the good ones!

[SniperX13]

I surely hope your not implying with you reply, that I stated it was the liberals fault. No where in my post did I say the Media Is Liberal, or Conservative. The Media is which ever is popular and sells their product. They would switch their tone at the drop of a hat to not worry about a drop in sales.

[TRD2000]

no Sniper, I agree with you, they tend to bag out any government cause thats what the people demand. the liberal remark was more in response to this...

Originally Posted by M3FordBoy

I think it is demacrat media just always giving the stuff they what us to see anything that would put us against what is going on over there. If not why don't you ever see the pictures over there like this:
I think the truth is most people in Irac like the us troops being there it is the north cities like sadams home town were most of the trouble is.

[M3FordBoy]

Originally Posted by TRD2000

no Sniper, I agree with you, they tend to bag out any government cause thats what the people demand. the liberal remark was more in response to this...

I think my statement was pretty true if they media is mostly siding against Bush doesn't that make them demicrats. If a demicrat was in office that might be different. Like when the war first started they showed a group of diminstraitors on CNN and said they were protesting the war and when you looked at their signs they were protesting the goverment in favor for communisum. Why they could be against the war it sounds more like aint American to me.

[Raz_Kaz]

So if your against the war and against Bush...does it automatically make you anti-American and pro-terrorist?

[M3FordBoy]

^No but I would say as you are protestion for communisum it gets pretty close. Now I know there is no true communism, but example of what I'm talking about would be a goverenment like North Korea: People have basically no say or really right they just do what they are told and If they don't like how things are done there is nothing they can do about it.

[TRD2000]

I Can't Think Of A True Democracy Either. And I Know That I Have To Pay My Taxes And I Have No Say In How Much They Are, Or How Fast I Can Drive, And If I Brake The Rules That Are Set Then I Will Be Punished. The Us Is Big On Punishment And Lacks On Human Rights As Well. Now Before You Say Anything About How The People Can Vote A Government Out In A Democracy, Remember Bush Came To Power Originally With Less Votes, Democracy My Ass, And If The People Of North Korea Or Iraq Wanted Change That Much They Would Stand Up For It And Have A Civil War, And Overturn The Government Which They Thought Was Treating Them So Badly.... But Then I Suppose The Us Might Say That They Were Bad And Bomb The Rebellious Cities Killing Millions Of Civilians, Have An Ongoing War That Might Tear The Whole Country In Two And Set Up What Would Be A Puppet Government... Oh Hang On...

[M3FordBoy]

First you do have somewhat of a say in your taxes were I live there has been a reacent vote to raise taxes so the schools could have more money and it past.

So if the majority of people wanted Bush out of office that bad your saying they should have a civil war? Bush won the first electing because of how a demicrat set up the ballit in Flordia. The second term was no dout Bush.

And an example I have reletives in Vietnam and how the government is over there, they wanted to make a street wider in front of my grandmas house and took about 15 feet off the front of her yard and how much do they give her for it practically nothing. And now my anut can no longer run a small road side shop becuse there is no room.

And last don't put a capital in front of almost every word it is very annoing.

[TRD2000]

Governments Do That To People All The Time All Over The World. When Roads Need To Go In People Lose Out On Property... And It Tends Not To Be Market Rate.

I Can See That The Schools In Your Area Are Under Funded, So It's Great They Are Fixing That.

Regardless Of Why It Happened Bush Got In And Caused Ten's Of Thousands Of Deaths Without The Votes To Do It.... Thats Not Democratic.

[M3FordBoy]

I submit for now