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[Cbass]

Damned left wing media.

I used to be shocked at how vigorously Americans attack viewpoints that don't fit neatly in with their own... Now I'm just disappointed.

It's actually somewhat sad to see someone get this worked up over a publication. I mean, I think the National Post is a terrible newspaper, and Macleans newsmagazine has a definite right wing slant to it, but I don't go out of my way to bring it up in conversation, or on forums.

I make no secret that I can't stand Fox News, but I don't start threads to point out how much of their "reporting" over the last several years on Iraq has turned out to be not only spun to the point where it throws up, but blatantly false.

Simmer down guys, the devil does not run CBS or CNN.

[Tehvisseeus]

Fox is a right leaning news company. The difference between fox and CBS is that everyone in america with a TV and an antenna can see CBS. You have to actually pay to see fox. This means that the left-leaning slant of broadcast television is the only thing that is viewable to those who cant affored cable. How do you think it affects there opinion when they are only getting the left leaning horseshit

[T4 Primera]

I can see Fox News in N.Z. for an hour or 2 each night without having to pay for it. Go figure...

[fredjacksonsan]

I bet if Bush had lost those people would still be working for CBS....

Any other story that's incorrect and the station issues an apology, "Oh, we got the information incorrect, it's actually so-and-so". This was just so high profile.

As far as news, I think BBC World does a much better job than any US news outlet.

[YogsVR4]

Originally Posted by T4 Primera

I can see Fox News in N.Z. for an hour or 2 each night without having to pay for it. Go figure...

Really? You sure about that? We have to pay here. Its only carried on cable, there are no traditional airwave broadcasts.

[fredjacksonsan]

Are we talking about the Fox news channel or the "normal" Fox network?

[YogsVR4]

I thought we are talking about Fox News. Fox is on the airwaves, but I'm pretty sure Fox News is only carried over the wire.

[fredjacksonsan]

Yah, then I don't get Fox news either w/o paying. The local is bad enough, without paying for more.

[T4 Primera]

The Fox we get consists of a panel of 3 anchors - 2 guys and a girl - along with some other guests. I think it might be called Fox & Freinds or at least part of it is. I don't know if this is different to the cable stuff.

I certainly wouldn't pay for it anyway....but then I guess lots of people get cable without paying for it....right!?!

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Tehvisseeus

How do you think it affects there opinion when they are only getting the left leaning horseshit

They're not, as long as Bush has access to an autocue.

[Tehvisseeus]

Originally Posted by taranaki

They're not, as long as Bush has access to an autocue.

Although considering that the president doesnt make addresses everyday, and when he does make addresses half the time its on c-span or some other network that the average american does not watch, my point stands.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Tehvisseeus

Although considering that the president doesnt make addresses everyday, and when he does make addresses half the time its on c-span or some other network that the average american does not watch, my point stands.

Nope, sorry, disagree.Bush has a long record of making statements that are incorrect or inflamatory.The basic premise of the CBS broadcast was correct,Bush was the lesser of the two candidates, but because he was the better liar, he got re-elected and has ensured thatthose who brought a bad message were punished.I'm sure that Hitler used to persecute journalists who spoke against him too.


In an effort to soften his crumbling international image, he's now trying to 'unsay' some of his more notorious comments.

http://news.bostonherald.com/politic...rticleid=63413

Such a pity he didn't have the guts to do it before the election.The President who regularly roasted his opponent for 'flip-flopping', and promised his country strong leadership, is already doing exactly the same.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by taranaki

Nope, sorry, disagree.Bush has a long record of making statements that are incorrect or inflamatory.The basic premise of the CBS broadcast was correct,Bush was the lesser of the two candidates, but because he was the better liar, he got re-elected and has ensured thatthose who brought a bad message were punished.I'm sure that Hitler used to persecute journalists who spoke against him too.


In an effort to soften his crumbling international image, he's now trying to 'unsay' some of his more notorious comments.

http://news.bostonherald.com/politic...rticleid=63413

Such a pity he didn't have the guts to do it before the election.The President who regularly roasted his opponent for 'flip-flopping', and promised his country strong leadership, is already doing exactly the same.

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For months you posted about Bush needing to admit to making a mistake now he has done that and you call that flip-flopping.

Comparing Bush to Hilter in regards to the firings at CBS is way off base. Hilter killed the journalists that spoke against him. Bush had nothing to do with the firings, they brought that upon themselves.

I doubt Bush cares what other countries think about him, as do a great many Americans. I do believe in not being able to please everyone as it is impossible to make every country happy. You will always have people griping and whining about Bush no matter what he does or said.

Do you really think if Bush said this before the election that it would of made a difference?

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Flatrater

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For months you posted about Bush needing to admit to making a mistake now he has done that and you call that flip-flopping.

Comparing Bush to Hilter in regards to the firings at CBS is way off base. Hilter killed the journalists that spoke against him. Bush had nothing to do with the firings, they brought that upon themselves.

I doubt Bush cares what other countries think about him, as do a great many Americans. I do believe in not being able to please everyone as it is impossible to make every country happy. You will always have people griping and whining about Bush no matter what he does or said.

Do you really think if Bush said this before the election that it would of made a difference?

point by point......

I've repeatedly said he needs to admit his failures and do something about them.Admitting incompetence and doing nothing about it is a self-indictment.

Journalists make shit up all the time.Only the ones who offend those in authority get fired for it.

You doubt if Bush cares what other countries think of him? I dont doubt the fact for a second.He's an arrogant cunt who is setting his own country up for another 9/11.You will always have people calling for war criminals to be deposed, and Bush is the perfect example.He's admitted that his reason for attacking Iraq was faulty, but is still happy to have done it.Any decent President would have stepped down.If journalists deserve to be fired for embellishing the truth,Presidents deserve to be tried for starting wars on the basis of bogus claims.

As to whether it would have made a difference had Bush said this before the election?Hopefully it would have.He made a great play about how 'Kerry couldn't protect America from terrorists'.........If Bush doesn't have accurate information about who has what weapons,Bush can't either.

[Muscletang]

When it comes to the major media I think CBS, NBC, and ABC are all left leaning. Fox is right leaning but they seem to tell you unlike the big three that seem to slip it into their reports.

I really don't care much for Fox news myself. If I ever watch the news it's MSNBC. I only watch Fox for Bill O'Reilly.