H22a Civic Swap Guide

[ZedEx]

I'm sure I can dig it up... Your's looks to be correct though. I'll post it up in a bit if I can find it.

-Wes

[ZedEx]

Here are some pictures of the H22A in our '94 Civic Hatchback. More upon request. Enjoy.













I've got some video coming as well. Stay tuned.

-Wes

[ZedEx]

Alright, here are some videos.

Brian's burnout

Brian's run. Running against Miles' GSR powered 1999 Civic EX. Brian broke into the 13's here (13.97)

This one is long... Brian versus Ryan's Eclipse GS-X (tuned quite highly). Towards the end, you should get a good idea of how well these cars pick up

Note, these video's aren't really recent... A few weeks old. The car was untuned, running on an Ebay header (Came with the swap) and a short tube intake that was sucking nothing but hot air.

Since then, we've tuned it, got a much better header, and fabricated an AEM CAI to fit. The car runs MUCH better now.

Anyway, the videos may still be getting optimized by StreetFire, so just keep checking back every hour or so.

The videos are DEFINATELY worth watching.

-Wes

[ZedEx]

Well... Another H22 Swap

The Twins...


Brian Walker, the owner of the White Hatchback... And the swap master Scott Walker in the background.


Mmmmm... Makes me want an H22


The White Hatchback is getting a Pro-Speed Header (Yeah... Spent about $600 on that), SKUNK2 Camshafts, AEBS Intake Manifold, and some Jungle Juice

The Silver Coupe is getting Boosted... This should be good.

In case you don't recognize the Silver Coupe. Watch the videos above when it had a GSR power train. Turns out Import Auto Salvage doesn't compression test Shit before they sell it to you. We got out money back, and went else where, for something better.

Anyway, here's a video or two... I'll have more soon.

The newest H22 addition to the Carolina Fried Rice...

-Wes

[CivicSpoon]

Very nice setups. And they are insane when you turbocharge them, they just scream with power.

[ZedEx]

Got some update pictures on the Silver Car...





And we've got ANOTHER H22 swap on the way... Stay tuned

-Wes

[ucantfadebee]

ive got a civic that i got from a cuzin of mys b4 he took off for the war but yea anyways his car he his a 93 h/b cx with a h22a1 in there now he told me about dfi and everything but i dont know shit about it when i call people people told me is old and i spent about 2g on nothing just having people look for ecu and wirehass for me if anyone got it can they pls help me

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by ucantfadebee

ive got a civic that i got from a cuzin of mys b4 he took off for the war but yea anyways his car he his a 93 h/b cx with a h22a1 in there now he told me about dfi and everything but i dont know shit about it when i call people people told me is old and i spent about 2g on nothing just having people look for ecu and wirehass for me if anyone got it can they pls help me

I have no clue what you're asking.

[ZedEx]

... *ackward silence* ...

What?

-Wes

[93CivicSiD16HB]

I was originally going to put a K-Series in my 00' SI but i see the gains in HP AND Torque are much higher in the H-Series, Plus I suppose I'd opt for a base model being it as a lower compression for boost. (and it's cheaper by quite a bit)

I just have a few questions
1. What would be reasoning for choosing a K over an H Series Engine?

2. I know the engine doesnt weigh as much as people say, but what about even with a fully mounted turbo/cooler, and maybe forged internals? (I dont know the power tolerances of an H22)

3. Are there suspension setups FOR this swap? If not what are some setups or configurations that seem to do well for less stress on the tires?

4. Does the base have a true VTEC setup? I know the base RSX k20A3 has more of a vtec-e setup than the type-s, and want to make sure with the h-series that its the real deal.

5.

Originally Posted by CivicSpoon

I believe it depends on which mount kit you get, in regards for the A/C. But for power steering; you need a '97+ PS pump and bracket as wells as a high pressure line that will fit the 2 different ends (1 to fit prelude pump and 1 to fit civic end).

I would be buying this engine from Hmotorsonline.com, it comes with an option hasport kit and it will be the 92-95 base model: http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30016
And was wondering if it might have the right setup for the a/c and where i could get a '97+ PS pump and bracket as wells as a high pressure line,unless i need a different piece because its a 92-95 model not the '97+?

And does anyone have a rough total cost for the swap, just inlcuding the engine, mounting, and suspension? I'm still deciding on this or the K..


Also ZedEx, i notice you installs are very clean, what mounting kits do you use, and for all H swaps is it really noticable that its tilted or does it always look like that?

[CivicSpoon]

1) People say that the K-series engines are more responsive to modifications than the older engines. But that's a question better asked of a person who has done a K-series swap. I personally would go H over K, because of price alone.
2) Weight shouldn't be an issue. With an H22a swap and full turbo kit, you might lose a .1 off your ¼ mile time from weight; but I doubt you'd even lose that. It's not like you're adding 100's of lbs in parts to it.
3) I know Progress sells springs specifically for this swap. My friend just bought some, but hasn't reinstalled his engine yet so I don't know how well they work. Any good stiffer suspension setup should be fine, as long as it doesn't lower the car 2"s or more (you'd risk breaking axles by being any lower).
4) Not sure what you mean here. What do you mean by "base"? Cause the base Prelude engine is an H23 non-vtec engine, if that's what you're asking. But the H22a is real vtec, same as the B-series vtec.
5) I honestly don't remember the info I found on A/C, as all the info should be bookmarked on my currently dead computer. But you can find the P/S pump and bracket from a junkyard, straight from honda, classified forums; the usual places to find parts. And you do need the '97+ pump, because that's what works with the H22a. For high pressure lines, you need to find a place that can make them for you. Try a local place for the cheapest prices, or search around online.

The swap could be done anywhere from $3,500-$5000+. It depends on what parts you buy. Search around for the best prices and shop that way.

For the tilt, look at the first pic on this page that ZedEX posted. Notice the back and front of the engine in correlation to the strut bar. c

[93CivicSiD16HB]

Well if anyone else could get that info on the a/c thatd be great, like if the hasport mounts allow the fitting of one or if another mounting kit does, as I'm going for the difficult Street/Show/Daily Driver route and though all of this i'd like cold air,

But about the 'base' that was just a misunderstanding on my part , there were two options Type SH or just an H22a, which i mistook for a base model, where as I am going to be getting the 92-95 H22a engine for my 00' si.

This also brings up the OBD-I and II converting question, how is it done and how easy/pricey is it?

And, i figure, would this setup then be just about the same as the 97+ swap?

H22A 92-95 Complete Change Over

200Hp 161Trq 10.6 Compression (JDM)
190Hp 156Trq 10.0 Compression (USDM)
$ 2199.00 Plus shipping and handling.

[ZedEx]

Well think about it man... We spent $3,000 or so on the swap for the Silver EK. $1,500 for the swap, $550 for the HASport mounts, $350 for the Raxle custom axles, $600 for the Pro-Speed Header $80 for the OBDII-OBDI Conversion Harness, and retuning it with Crome. (Don't try it by yourself unless you have someon that knows what they're doing with you! You can seriously mess the engine up!)

And the car put down 190whp, 156ftlbs. STOCK. Only modifcation being that Pro-Speed Header. Now, my Type-R has put down over 180whp, but with 140ftlbs or so. I ran the Civic (On the highway, no city street racing) from second gear, and he started pulling away at the low end of each gear, but when I hit the top end, I started catching right back up next to him, and by the time we were in fifth gear, we were side by side.

H-Series have torque... Lots of it. If I could put an H22 in the Type-R without ruining the value of the car, I'D DO IT.

As for your question on OBDII-OBDI Conversion... Go Here, that's the company we use for all of our needs.

And if you go with a K20A3 over the H22, you're a mad man. You'd rather spend over $5,000 on a 160bhp single cam (I say that because the A3 only have i-VTEC on the intake cam, not exhaust, pretty weak.), or around $2,500 on an easily 190whp+ swap with TONS of torque. Just think about that.

If you want to be "The Man", do what we're doing into the white car now (The H22 got hydrolocked during a bad storm, so the rebuild has begun). Buy an H23 Block, buy H22 Type-S JDM Pistons (You HAVE to make sure you're buying the correct ones, H-Seriess have A, and B Pistons, each are different, you need to check the markings on the block before you buy! And please remember, H-Series engines are FRM (Fiber Reinforced Material), which means there are only a hand full of places in the US which will even touch an H22, closest one to me is Maryland, and they wanted $1,200 to HONE it! So if you get your H23 block, you must make sure the cylinder walls are in good shape, otherwise don't touch it.), have the H23 Crankshaft Balanced, install oil squirters from H22 (They bolt right up), get an H22 Head, JDM LSD Transmission. Throw everything together, and you've got a monster under your hood, the CR will be over 13:1, the torque will be amazing, and high end will still be great, the car would be a monster.

I'll post pictures up of our progess with this swap, it's really not hard at all!

-Wes

[CivicSpoon]

My friend let me drive his car a few weeks ago, after upgrading his suspension again. He just got new Progress H-series swap springs, KYB adjustable shocks, and did the entire energy suspension bushings kit...the car handles GREAT. And he has 17" rims, and the tires are a hell of a lot wider than my 175/70/13 tires. With all that, in all honesty, it has less understeer than my stock '94 CX (neither car has power steering I should also add).

[onebadcrawler]

Hi i have a 1999 Honda Civic Dx that i am possibly thinking about dropping an H22a into. Do you know if the kits and the mounts that Hasport makes will work for my application? Also do you know you know if all the other parts will work also? i appreciate it